San fransisco Lower mission Surenos 19st and 16st? are they real?

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Post by Southsider619er » July 23rd, 2014, 5:30 am

wats the deal on them lower missions surenos? are they hittas or no?

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Post by Bearface_Gang » July 23rd, 2014, 8:08 am

f*ck no they aint every scrap in the bay are some suckaz especially them lower mission
Scraps they stay tucked in there houses cause the homies from the mission be having
Them suckaz spooked they just killed 1 2 days ago
And out here blacks and nortes are clicked up even
Got the tongan crip gang putting it work on them suckaz
They call themselvea c-14 (crip 14) f*ck a scrap
Keep that sh*t in so cal norte shaaaaaooooooooo

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Post by BayArea$℉℃ » July 23rd, 2014, 7:13 pm

They a real gang. Not being bias but they don't be out there at all just a few knocks and they took way more losses then they gave. So that pretty much sums them up

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Post by Calikush » July 24th, 2014, 2:15 am

actually they are the exact opposit san francisco surenos are real and very violent they are very old gangs and run the entire mission district from 11th,16th,19th,20th-22nd is all sureno and ms13 gangs all thru downtown and theres also a lot of asian crips mission/downtown/tenderloin is all surenos and crips u see them all over and hang out together there is no nortaco in mission only a random nerd from daly city or colma will claim it on the computer and c14 also has been gone long time ago they were only in san jose sf crips never were part of it since thier coo with 13s so are the crips in richmond are cliqued hard with surenos,even asian crips in oakland also are coo with oakland surenos and other parts of the bay area but san francisco surenos have killed many people.

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Post by Calikush » July 24th, 2014, 2:16 am

actually they are the exact opposit san francisco surenos are real and very violent they are very old gangs and run the entire mission district from 11th,16th,19th,20th-22nd is all sureno and ms13 gangs all thru downtown and theres also a lot of asian crips mission/downtown/tenderloin is all surenos and crips u see them all over and hang out together there is no nortaco in mission only a random nerd from daly city or colma will claim it on the computer and c14 also has been gone long time ago they were only in san jose sf crips never were part of it since thier coo with 13s so are the crips in richmond are cliqued hard with surenos,even asian crips in oakland also are coo with oakland surenos and other parts of the bay area but san francisco surenos have killed many people.

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Post by Westuce218 » July 26th, 2014, 12:00 am

Calikush wrote:actually they are the exact opposit san francisco surenos are real and very violent they are very old gangs and run the entire mission district from 11th,16th,19th,20th-22nd is all sureno and ms13 gangs all thru downtown and theres also a lot of asian crips mission/downtown/tenderloin is all surenos and crips u see them all over and hang out together there is no nortaco in mission only a random nerd from daly city or colma will claim it on the computer and c14 also has been gone long time ago they were only in san jose sf crips never were part of it since thier coo with 13s so are the crips in richmond are cliqued hard with surenos,even asian crips in oakland also are coo with oakland surenos and other parts of the bay area but san francisco surenos have killed many people.
lol dude sh*t the f*ck up them n*ggas don't run sh*t ms13 got ran out the bay the lower mission skraps ain't sh*t stop bumping this bullshit they don't run that many streets they really only in 19th and gettin banged on

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Post by Southsider619er » July 26th, 2014, 4:46 am

obviously busters are gona hate and say they aint real but I hear a lot about 19 im just trying it here from a 19 n*gga to see wat the deal is

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Post by Calikush » July 27th, 2014, 2:54 pm

Yeah 19st Surenos are real and are the oldest Sureno gang in the mission district but there are so many San Francisco Sureno sets besides them and their are no more nortaco in the mission they all got killed off now just a random nerd from Daly city or millbrae will claim it on the internet but aint nobody bangin on them lol its too many Surenos and that idiot is all the way in gay a$$ karson tryin to lie about San Francisco and Bay Area Surenos when karson slobs are gettin smashed and killed by east coast Crips.

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Post by ScrapsFearICE » August 3rd, 2014, 5:05 pm

^ disregard that biased input

19th street make no noise. They cant even hold down Dolores Park, which is on 19th. 16th on the other hand do more dirt and have larger numbers. Last time they made headlines was when they stomped out n popped some bouncer and killed a USF student originally from socal (go figure). Dont get your panties all wet scrapa, MS were the only threat to Mission Norteños and theyve been shut down.

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Post by Calikush » August 4th, 2014, 1:59 am

YOU DUMBASS NORTACO SUBURB WETBAK YOUR RETARDED 11THSTX3-20TH STX3 AND MS13 IS ALL THERE IS IN SAN FRANCISCO AND MISSION THEY KILLED SO MANY PEOPLE AND THOSE 3 NORTACOS THAT MS13 BLASTED ON JOHN DALY BLVD THAT WENT TO COLLEGE WERE ALL FROM DALY CITY NOT LA DUMB SUBURB NORTACO HARMLESS WETBAK AND NOBODY EVEN GOES TO DOLORES PARK SINCE POLICE REFURBISHED IT AND MADE IT PUBLIC FRIENDLY FOR HIPPIES AND TOURIST AROUND 2000 DUMBASS NORTACO ISNT EVEN A GANG ITS A FAKE WETBAK NERD FROM SOME GAY DALY CITY MILLBRAE COLMA SUBURB AND LIE ON THE INTERNET ALL DAY

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Post by Calikush » August 4th, 2014, 2:05 am

AND THEN LAST TIME THEM SAN FRANCISCO SURENOS WALKED UP ON THAT NORTACO THAT GOT OFF WORK AND RIDDLED HIS FACE FULL OF BULLETS THEN ANOTHER GOT KILLED IN FRONT OF HIS FAMILY HOME THEN ANOTHER NORTACO KILLED AT SF GAS STATION THEN TEY RUN OVER THE WETBAKS BODY LOL AND ANOTHER NORTACO JUST GOT MURDERED IN SAN JOSE A COUPLE DAYS AGO NORTACO SUBURB WETBAK ALWAYS GETTING KILLED LOL

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Post by Calikush » August 4th, 2014, 2:06 am

AND THEN LAST TIME THEM SAN FRANCISCO SURENOS WALKED UP ON THAT NORTACO THAT GOT OFF WORK AND RIDDLED HIS FACE FULL OF BULLETS THEN ANOTHER GOT KILLED IN FRONT OF HIS FAMILY HOME THEN ANOTHER NORTACO KILLED AT SF GAS STATION THEN TEY RUN OVER THE WETBAKS BODY LOL AND ANOTHER NORTACO JUST GOT MURDERED IN SAN JOSE A COUPLE DAYS AGO NORTACO SUBURB WETBAK ALWAYS GETTING KILLED LOL

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You a lien p*ssy you probly mad bcus some homeboy was fuckn your sister or mom n sh*t '


A Rat's Life: MS-13 Snitches Run Wild While Turning State's Evidence
By Lauren Smiley
Wednesday, Apr 27 2011
David knows of only three prisoners who made it out of the tank without getting deported. That included himself — out on bail with the help of an immigration attorney — and, inexplicably, Bad Boy.

He didn't know that Bad Boy was a rat. In 2005, U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) initiated Operation Community Shield, a nationwide investigation of MS-13. While in immigration detention, Bad Boy was offered the chance to stay in the country if he'd infiltrate the 20th Street Clique. But defense attorneys allege Bad Boy was less a mere observer than an agent provocateur of the very violence he was informing about. * After infiltrating the 20th Street Clique for three years in Operation Devil Horns, named for the gang's hand sign, federal authorities busted down doors in October 2008.
In a triumphant press conference held by federal officials and then-U.S. Attorney Joe Russoniello about the takedown, Bad Boy didn't get a mention. Nor did Jaime "Mickey" Martinez, a former gang leader who would later testify to participating in car thefts and a shooting during his time as a government snitch.
In June 2004, the Clique's leader, Luis "Memo" Fuentes, was fatally shot in front of his young son in Norteño territory on 24th Street. Soon after, a handful of members from a Los Angeles MS-13 clique called the Pasadena Locos Sureños arrived, according to court testimony of Abraham Martinez, a 20th Street Clique member who testified in the trial this month. He says PLS members announced they had been sent "to keep an eye on things" for respected leaders in Los Angeles and El Salvador.
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Post by Calikush » August 4th, 2014, 2:23 pm

ALL YOU DID WAS POST A ARTICLE ON HOW THE FBI HAD TO INFILTRATE MS13 TO SHUT SOME OF THEM DOWN AND THAT DOESNT MAKE THE ORGANIZATION SNITCHES ONLY ONE OF THEM SNITCHED AND EVEN WITH ALL THE POLICE/FBI SWEEPS ON MS13 THIER STILL ALL OVER FRISCO AND THE BAY AREA NORTACOS ARE THE ONES SNITCHIN AND FROM THE SUBURBS TINY 24TH BEEN KILLED OFF AND KEPT GETTING BLASTED WHEN THOSE 3 NORTACOS GOT BLASTED ON JOHN DALY BLVD THE OTHER NORTACO SNITCHED ON THEM MS13 AND 2 GOT CAUGHT I CAN POST ARTICLES TOO NORTACO SUBURB GEEK.

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Post by Calikush » August 4th, 2014, 2:30 pm

SAN FRANCISCO SURENOS STILL KILLIN NORTACOS AND DOMINATE FRISCO http://www.ice.gov/news/releases/1403/1 ... ncisco.htm

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14 Bay Area Sureños street gang members indicted for racketeering and murder
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SAN FRANCISCO – Fourteen Bay Area members of the 19th Street Sureños gang, and the associated 16th Street Sureños gang, have been charged in a federal indictment with a variety of offenses, including racketeering and murder, following a two-year probe by U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement’s (ICE) Homeland Security Investigations (HSI) and the San Francisco Police Department.
Thirteen of the defendants were taken into custody during a joint law enforcement operation Wednesday in San Francisco and Daly City. HSI special agents and investigators from the San Francisco Police Department, aided by the U.S. Secret Service and Daly City Police Department, arrested all of the named defendants except Alberto Torres, who is expected to be taken into custody shortly.
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Eduardo Alvarez, a/k/a "Clumsy," 25, of San Francisco;
Elias Chavez, a/k/a "Kiko," 26, of San Francisco;
Luis Cid-Salinas, a/k/a "Lonely," 29, of San Francisco;
Ignacio Cruz, a/k/a "Nacho," 24, of San Francisco;
Juan Carlos Garcia-Gomez, a/k/a "Lil Ghost," 27, of San Francisco;
Jairo Hernandez, a/k/a "Joker," 33, of San Francisco;
Orlando Carlos Hernandez, a/k/a "Chisto," 31, of Oakland;
Jusef Nathan, a/k/a "Boo," 35, of San Francisco;
Rogelio Real, a/k/a "Payaso," 29, of San Francisco;
Mario Serrano, a/k/a "Caballo," 31, of San Francisco;
Alberto Torres, a/k/a "Taz," 32, of San Francisco;
Carlos Vasquez, a/k/a "Malo," 26, of San Francisco;
Weston Venegas, a/k/a "Cartoon," 24, of Daly City; and
Michael Viera, a/k/a "Lil Rocks" or "Rocks," 24, of San Francisco.
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Two of the 14 racketeering defendants – Jairo Hernandez and Carlos Vasquez – are also charged with one count of murder in the aid of racketeering committed Aug. 30, 2011.Two other defendants – Ignacio Cruz and Elias Chavez – are charged with four counts of attempted murder in connection with an incident Jan. 4. Defendants Albert Torres and Michael Viera are each charged with two counts of assault with a dangerous weapon in the aid of racketeering for an incident in May of last year. Finally, defendant Eduardo Alvarez is charged with two counts of assault with a dangerous weapon in the aid of racketeering, in connection with incidents that occurred Sept. 1, 2013, and Sept. 8, 2013.
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SAN FRANCISCO SURENOS KILL NORTACO GEEK ON DOORSTEP
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RIGHT NEXT DOOR SAN JOSE SURENOS ARE DOIN THE SAME sh*t KILLIN NORTACOS..

San Jose: FBI caps operation against violent Sureño gang with arrests near downtown
By Robert Salonga

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POSTED: 03/19/2014 09:08:58 AM PDT24 COMMENTS
UPDATED: 03/19/2014 07:24:01 PM PDT

SAN JOSE -- The FBI says it has struck a crushing blow to a violent Sureño street gang operating near downtown San Jose thanks to a multiyear operation capped by the arrests of two significant players early Wednesday, adding to the nearly two dozen suspects already in custody.

The two gang members arrested Wednesday were arraigned in federal court later in the day for several counts covering crimes involving methamphetamine dealing, racketeering, weapons, and conspiracy to commit murder. An indictment involving them and other members had been sealed until now to avoid tipping them off, the FBI said.

But local gang interventionists say that while the arrests are laudable, law enforcement needs to be wary about other gang members in the city's Washington neighborhood moving in to fill the power vacuum that has just been created.

The FBI's Santa Clara County Violent Gang Task Force, an assembly of officers from more than 10 South Bay police agencies, descended on South First and Oak streets near Washington Elementary School around 6 a.m. to arrest Mario Cardenas, 20, and 23-year-old Rafael Mariscal Cambreros, both of San Jose.

Cardenas and Cambreros were the last pieces of an investigation that yielded 27 defendants and the effective ruin of the Sur Santos Pride gang, a Sureño subset, said FBI spokesman Peter Lee.

"The gang is done," Lee said. "Getting SSP off the street is huge."

Not so fast, say city leaders tasked with community-based solutions to San Jose's prominent gang problems.

"It's a little pre-emptive to say that the gang is done," said Mario Maciel, superintendent of the Mayor's Gang Prevention Task Force. "I have no doubt that they put a serious dent into the structure. But there's a big number of guys who are still out there. Everyone's going to vie for position now."

Maciel added that it would be dangerous to declare too much progress and give policymakers the impression that anti-gang programs might not be as needed in the Washington area.

"There's a lot of work to do. It continues to be a hot spot," he said. "Anytime you take out the head, it's a great first step, and the help is appreciated. But there are 30 or 40 guys out there hearing the words 'done' and 'dismantled' and saying, 'Oh really?' "

"It's been a crippling. But they're not dismantled. They have contingency plans for this."

Lee said the operation, which was sparked by gang detectives in the San Jose Police Department, was fueled in part by an initiative to combat violent crime in the South Bay spearheaded by David Johnson, special agent in charge of the FBI's San Francisco Bay Area division.

The task force began arresting gang members in the area starting Jan. 30. The other defendants identified by federal authorities so far are: Jesse Aguilar, aka "Munchies," 31; Jesus Manuel Armendariz, aka "Chumel," 22; Rafael Mariscal Camberos, aka "Bad Boy," 23; Benito Canales, aka "Dopey," 32; Mario Cardenas, aka "Trusty," 20; Jorge Cisneros, aka "Sleepy," 28; Juan Chavez, aka "Dukester," 29; Felix Hernandez Cristobal, aka "Pato," 22; Daniel Cortes, aka "Little Temper," 21; Fernando Cruz, aka "Nano," 23; Oscar Martinez De La Cruz, aka "Cuete," 27; Francisco Fonseca, aka "Griffo," 28; Mario Guerrero, aka "Li'l Junior," 22; Marcos Salvador Lomeli, aka "Cookie," 23; Andy Lamb Lopez, aka "Solo," 36; Roberto Jaime Martinez, aka "Espantos," 32; Miguel Miranda, aka "Payaso," 27; Alfredo Moldonado, aka "Junior," 35; Ricardo Montoya, aka "Necio," 23; Jose Angel Moreno, aka "Li'l Chocolate," 30; Jorge Luis Olivera, aka "Chivo," 20; Jesse Parra, aka "Little Looney," 31; Jorge Rodriguez, aka "Brownie," 24; Jose David Sanchez, aka "Joker," 32; Denis Sandoval, aka "Criminal," 26; Miguel Vasquez, aka "Tweety," 29; and Gilberto Villela, aka "Snowman," 32.

Two of the defendants, including Martinez, are charged with a murder related to racketeering that was committed Oct. 23, 2011, when a 22-year-old San Jose man was stabbed to death. Martinez and Cruz are also accused of using deadly weapons in the assault of two men believed to be in a rival gang on Nov. 4, 2011.

Others face similar counts to Cardenas and Cambreros, highlighted by alleged methamphetamine dealing and weapons offenses and also assault, robbery, obstruction of justice and tampering with witnesses. The indictment also details meetings among gang members discussing the need to tax local pimps and businesses, send in regular tax installments to prison gang leaders, with meetings often ending with a new member being "jumped in."

Crimes listed in the indictment go back nearly 5 years, starting April 9, 2009, when Montoya and others are believed to have stabbed and attempted to kill a victim believed to be a Norteño. Other listed attempted homicides were directed at members of their own gang, including one incarcerated at the Elmwood Correctional Facility in Milpitas.

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Staff writer Eric Kurhi contributed to this report. Contact Robert Salonga at 408-920-50

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@ Cali Kush Youa straight b*tch n*gga you stay YouTube bangn fake a$$ crip/sureno bruh your the new hood up joke '. That first article shown them Ms13 shotcallers be informants n sh*t the Frisco Nortenos lit two of they're shotcallers up

Your hypen Frisco skraps like a skrap lover would them n*ggas aint on sh*t can't compare us to them we Frisco homeboys stay killn sh*t'

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@ Escalating gang war bedevils Mission District

By Ari Burack | March 04, 2011
Police say a war between rival gangs has erupted in the Mission, resulting in a bloody wave of violence that has left one man dead and several others severely injured.

In the past two weeks, there have been at least six incidents of gang-related violence, believed to have been sparked by Sureño graffiti appearing on Norteño turf near 19th and Bryant streets Feb. 18, according to police.

Since then, there have been four shootings and two stabbings, police said. A 24-year-old man, Aldo Troncoso, was killed in one of the shootings, early Saturday morning at 17th and Mission streets, which is considered Sureño territory. Another occurred in broad daylight Wednesday.

“It’s a fact right now that we’re having a gang war between the Norteños and the Sureños in the Mission district,” police Capt. Mike Biel told the Board of Supervisors Public Safety Committee on Thursday.

Biel said captains in the Mission and neighboring Bayview and Ingleside police districts are developing plans to address the violence, including using tactical and traffic teams and bolstering police presence on the streets with both plainclothes and uniformed officers. Also, police are working with community groups.

Supervisor David Campos, whose district includes the Mission, said the violence has residents on edge.

“There’s a lot of tension and anxiety around what’s happening, and rightly so,” Campos said.

Police will be monitoring a wake for Troncoso today in the Mission. His funeral is scheduled for Saturday.

“We want to interrupt the vicious cycle of retaliation,” said Mission Police Station Capt. Greg Corrales. “We want to de-escalate the situation, because up until recently things in the Mission district have been very calm in reference to gangs.”

On Thursday afternoon, young men lighting candles at a sidewalk memorial for Troncoso declined to speak about the shooting, but nearby workers said the violence has worsened.

“It’s going to be here for a while,” said one young woman, a sales clerk at a cell phone store across the street from Troncoso’s memorial. The woman, who asked that her name not be printed, said her brother-in-law was mistaken for a Norteño gang member and fatally shot by Sureños in the Mission district three years ago.

“Mainly it starts as the tagging — ‘Oh, they’re in our territory,’” she said. “Then it’s the drive-bys, the shootings, the stabbings. I don’t think it’s going to end.”

Faris Oran, a clerk at the Danah Enterprise Smoke Shop next door, said despite the “drama,” business has been “regular.”

“This is every day, man,” Oran said. “We get used to it.”

Oran said folks in the area have learned to work around the criminal element.

“It’s only gang members,” he said. “Blue and red and all that. We’re only people, we’re not with them or against them. This is the Mission.”

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Intensifying violence


Gang-related incidents have increased in the Mission in recent weeks.

Feb. 18: Sureño graffiti tagged in Norteño territory near 19th and Bryant streets.
Feb. 21: A group of suspects asks another group at 22nd and Mission streets what gang they claimed. After responding that they are not gang members, the victims are punched and stabbed.
Feb. 26: A Sureño gang member is confronted by four Norteños in the
3000 block of 16th Street and stabbed nine times.
Feb. 26: Sureño gang member Aldo Troncoso, 24, is fatally shot at about
2:30 a.m. at 17th and Mission streets.
Feb. 27: A man who had just moved from San Leandro is sitting in a car at Alabama and Cesar Chavez streets when he is approached and asked what gang he claimed. The man, who is not a gang member, is shot in the neck.
March 2: A Norteño gang member is shot at about noon at 24th and Harrison streets.
Source: Police Department


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