MOORI5H AMERICAN MO5LEM5(MOE5)

[Moe Red]

...or even worse, he could be one of those super-Afrocentric types following a grafted "Afro-American" version of an "ancient African religion". Either way, he needs to find a path to gettin right on the square.

[father tua]

The 2nd video explains some truth to the matter of how Arabs are some racist motherfukkaz!
Look at the part of how the Egyptian Government treated the Sudanese Refugees!

[YaRDie_HBo]

I DIDN'T EVEN WATCH ALL OF THE VIDEOS.. I WATCHED 2 AND I JUS KNEW HE WAS ANGRY JUS BY HIM EMPHASIZING THAT HE CALLED NOBLE DREW ALI A NIGGA... ITS TOO MUCH HATE IN HIS BLOOD..

[I5lamicmoe5]

BUT I JUST WANT EVERYONE TO SEE THIS sh*t ON YOUTUBE WHO'S INTO MOORISH SCIENCE.. TYPE IN "MOORISH SCIENCE FALSE TEACHINGS".. IS IT ME OR DOES DUDE NOT REALLY UNDERSTAND WHAT HE'S ELABORATING ON??

Most of these dudes don't really understand the concept of what Drew Ali was talking about back then... The main deal that Timothy Drew (a.k.a. "Drew Ali") was preaching was human equality, even to the point of Black/Moorish upliftment above everyone else, to the extent of considering "moors" as a supreme race of people. His movement is the one that sparked all the factions of his group (i.e. NOI, NGE, etc.).

I hold an open opinion, i am Muslim, and believe that the the Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) is his last Prophet/Messenger.

Al-Qur'an-Majeed says that Mohammed was the last "prophet", not the last "messenger". So, that type of argument could have possibly passed when it came to people like Drew Ali - but he didn't come claiming to be a "messenger" of God, he claimed to be a "prophet". That's the ideology that completely separated his beliefs and traditions from the Arab Islamic groups.

I was Born a Muslim Allhumdulilah and Follow the Holy Al Qu'ran Al Majeed and of Course the Sunnah of the Last and Seal of the Prophets Muhammad (PBUH)

Assalaam Alaikum, brother. I just wanted ask you something from a Muslim perspective. I've read through the Sunna and the Hadeeths of Mohammed, and many of them are very practical and instructive. But what do you think of the sunna passages and hadeeths than conflict with what al-Qur'an says on a matter? Do you follow the Qur'an or do you follow the Hadeeths?

W Salam bro.. Sunnah is as much guidance as the Qu'ran Majeed is akhi. For example the Qu'ran states to pray Salah 5 times a day correct, but does not tell us how to Perform Salah.. same with Wudhu, Hajj, Zakat etc... bro. The Qu'ran and Sunnah go hand in hand bro. You Can't choose one over the Other both are Essential in Guidance for us as the Ummah.
Hadith Qudsi are the sayings of the Prophet Muhammad (Peace and Blessings of Allah be upon him) as revealed to him by the Almighty Allah. Hadith Qudsi (or Sacred Hadith) are so named because, unlike the majority of Hadith which are Prophetic Hadith, their authority (Sanad) is traced back not to the Prophet but to the Almighty.

Among the many definitions given by the early scholars to Sacred Hadith is that of as-Sayyid ash-Sharif al-Jurjani (died in 816 A.H.) in his lexicon At-Tarifat where he says: "A Sacred Hadith is, as to the meaning, from Allah the Almighty; as to the wording, it is from the messenger of Allah (peace be upon him). It is that which Allah the Almighty has communicated to His Prophet through revelation or in dream, and he, peace be upon him, has communicated it in his own words. Thus Qur'an is superior to it because, besides being revealed, it is His wording."
I follow Both the Qu'ran and hadiths akhi Ima Give u a Link of a Chicago Based Youth Group that I am actively involved here it is akhi http://www.ymsite.com/books.php

[buGsy]

Hadith & Sunna: Satanic Innovations...

You probably found that on one of Dr. Rashad Khalifa's websites or something... Even though I disagree with some of his ideologies, I agree on his statements of sunna and hadeeth. They were written and compiled many years after Mohammed's death (up to 250 years later!), and many of the concepts completely conflict with al-Qur'an. I used to study and believe in some of them, but nowadays, I disregard all of them, especially since al-Qur'an says that the Scripture is "fully detailed" and it "explains all things"...

W Salam bro.. Sunnah is as much guidance as the Qu'ran Majeed is akhi. For example the Qu'ran states to pray Salah 5 times a day correct, but does not tell us how to Perform Salah.. same with Wudhu, Hajj, Zakat etc... bro. The Qu'ran and Sunnah go hand in hand bro. You Can't choose one over the Other both are Essential in Guidance for us as the Ummah.
Hadith Qudsi are the sayings of the Prophet Muhammad (Peace and Blessings of Allah be upon him) as revealed to him by the Almighty Allah. Hadith Qudsi (or Sacred Hadith) are so named because, unlike the majority of Hadith which are Prophetic Hadith, their authority (Sanad) is traced back not to the Prophet but to the Almighty.

Among the many definitions given by the early scholars to Sacred Hadith is that of as-Sayyid ash-Sharif al-Jurjani (died in 816 A.H.) in his lexicon At-Tarifat where he says: "A Sacred Hadith is, as to the meaning, from Allah the Almighty; as to the wording, it is from the messenger of Allah (peace be upon him). It is that which Allah the Almighty has communicated to His Prophet through revelation or in dream, and he, peace be upon him, has communicated it in his own words. Thus Qur'an is superior to it because, besides being revealed, it is His wording."

I hear what you're saying, brother, and I understand exactly where you're coming from. I used to study sunna and hadeeths religiously, and I applied some of their ideals even when they seemed to contradict the Scripture. However, after a while of study and recitation, I saw a few conflicting concepts in the hadeeths. For example, the sunna teaches us to pray 5 times a day, but al-Qur'an only mentions 3 (or 2, depending on how you interpret the Scripture). The sunna teaches 8 steps to complete wudhu, but al-Qur'an only teaches 4. The sunna and hadeeths refer to Mohammed as "illiterate", whereas al-Qur'an-Majeed says that the prophet wrote and recited the Scripture sent down to him. And there are even other instances regarded highly in the sunna that are completely rejected in al-Qur'an-Majeed, including placing the prophet's name alongside AR-RAHMAN in the shahada...

I've read many of the ahadeeth, and some of them sound reasonable, while other don't. I've never seen the "Sacred Hadeeth" sent down by God, though - the Scripture says that the Qur'an was God's Message to the worlds, even stating that 'nothing has been left out of it' (6:38)... If God (Allah) states that His Qur'an is "fully detailed" (6:114), why do we need the hadeeths and sunna? The prophet was even warned by God Himself against teaching any religious doctrines other than what al-Qur'an contains - if he did so, God would surely and severely punish him... I'm not trying to question your beliefs, ahki, as you know I held the same beliefs in the past. I just wanna know what you think of these concepts, based on al-Qur'an and, insha'llah, we can come to a reasonable conclusion...

[WESTSIDE 5TXNEBL5XD NATION]

I posted up those youtube videos you mentioned...
Whoever that guy is absolutely lost. He's taking things on face value, and not grasping the understanding of what's written in Noble Drew Ali's (R.I.P.) measures. He doesn't see the relevence and the truth in the scriptures he was reading. He kinda sound like some guy that just got out of jail, read two books about "Africa", picked up a pcp habit, and started preaching some nonsense on the streets. LOL I couldn't even watch the whole videos, that sh*t was so off the wall.

wat up moe.yeah i saw those videos abou the guy dissin moes and shit.that nigga is just foolish as hell but he was right about one thing those arabs and turks are some racist assholes for real i kan agrre with him on that.

[WESTSIDE 5TXNEBL5XD NATION]

hey i was noticin that the el rukn moes bak in the day kalled them selves "mooorish american sunni muslims" whats up with that? but ido know that malik konverted to orthodox sunni islam.

[I5lamicmoe5]

I posted up those youtube videos you mentioned...
Whoever that guy is absolutely lost. He's taking things on face value, and not grasping the understanding of what's written in Noble Drew Ali's (R.I.P.) measures. He doesn't see the relevence and the truth in the scriptures he was reading. He kinda sound like some guy that just got out of jail, read two books about "Africa", picked up a pcp habit, and started preaching some nonsense on the streets. LOL I couldn't even watch the whole videos, that sh*t was so off the wall.

wat up moe.yeah i saw those videos abou the guy dissin moes and sh*t.that nigga is just foolish as hell but he was right about one thing those arabs and turks are some racist assholes for real i kan agrre with him on that.

EY FAM WHT U MEAN BY but he was right about one thing those arabs and turks are some racist assholes for real i kan agrre with him on that.

BECAUSE IMA ARAB MOE SINCE BIRTH JOE AND KEEP IT 100

[WESTSIDE 5TXNEBL5XD NATION]

I posted up those youtube videos you mentioned...
Whoever that guy is absolutely lost. He's taking things on face value, and not grasping the understanding of what's written in Noble Drew Ali's (R.I.P.) measures. He doesn't see the relevence and the truth in the scriptures he was reading. He kinda sound like some guy that just got out of jail, read two books about "Africa", picked up a pcp habit, and started preaching some nonsense on the streets. LOL I couldn't even watch the whole videos, that sh*t was so off the wall.

wat up moe.yeah i saw those videos abou the guy dissin moes and sh*t.that nigga is just foolish as hell but he was right about one thing those arabs and turks are some racist assholes for real i kan agrre with him on that.

EY FAM WHT U MEAN BY but he was right about one thing those arabs and turks are some racist assholes for real i kan agrre with him on that.

BECAUSE IMA ARAB MOE SINCE BIRTH JOE AND KEEP IT 100

im sorry moe i dint mean to be racist but if you look at the genocide in sudan most of it is being perpetrated by wannabe arab blacks and arabs themselves.but im sorry for the komment moe.

[buGsy]

EY FAM WHT U MEAN BY but he was right about one thing those arabs and turks are some racist assholes for real i kan agrre with him on that.

BECAUSE IMA ARAB MOE SINCE BIRTH JOE AND KEEP IT 100

This shouldn't be funny, but it is... Assalaamu Alaikum, brothers...

[WESTSIDE 5TXNEBL5XD NATION]

ALSO WHAT DO YOU ALL THINK ABOUT STONES WITH OTHER RELIGIOUS BELIEFS SUCH AS CHRISTIANITY? BECAUSE SINCE MOST STONES ARE BLACK THEY WERE MOST LIKEY RAISED IN THE CHURCH.

[I5lamicmoe5]

I posted up those youtube videos you mentioned...
Whoever that guy is absolutely lost. He's taking things on face value, and not grasping the understanding of what's written in Noble Drew Ali's (R.I.P.) measures. He doesn't see the relevence and the truth in the scriptures he was reading. He kinda sound like some guy that just got out of jail, read two books about "Africa", picked up a pcp habit, and started preaching some nonsense on the streets. LOL I couldn't even watch the whole videos, that sh*t was so off the wall.

wat up moe.yeah i saw those videos abou the guy dissin moes and sh*t.that nigga is just foolish as hell but he was right about one thing those arabs and turks are some racist assholes for real i kan agrre with him on that.

EY FAM WHT U MEAN BY but he was right about one thing those arabs and turks are some racist assholes for real i kan agrre with him on that.

BECAUSE IMA ARAB MOE SINCE BIRTH JOE AND KEEP IT 100

im sorry moe i dint mean to be racist but if you look at the genocide in sudan most of it is being perpetrated by wannabe arab blacks and arabs themselves.but im sorry for the komment moe.

Its well B i aint trippin its already hard for a muslim in america so im used to the dumb ass comments but its funny though ni99az b spooked when u say ure Arab or Muslim lol BUT ALL IS WELL AND TO BUSGY WALAIKUM SALAM BROTHER AND NO IT AINT FUNNY ITS JUS PLAIN IGNORANT

[WESTSIDE 5TXNEBL5XD NATION]

like i said im soory moe but just like you have racist ass blacks you do have racist ass arabs.

[I5lamicmoe5]

like i said im soory moe but just like you have racist @$$ blacks you do have racist @$$ arabs.

its well b887d all is well brotha i aint judgin u bro was good though B?

[buGsy]

...AND TO BUSGY WALAIKUM SALAM BROTHER AND NO IT AINT FUNNY ITS JUS PLAIN IGNORANT

You're right, brother, and I didn't mean it like that. I meant it like, basically: everybody thinks Muslims hate everybody who's not Muslim. They think we're at war with the whole world, and that's not true at all. It shouldn't be funny, but it's funny to me how misguided they are. That's why I feel so much better when people really understand the real foundations of Islam. Once Christians and Jews (and others too) understand what "Islam" is really about, they'll accept us - they'll see that our religions are the same (MONOTHEISM), and our beliefs aren't too different from eachother... Salaam

[WESTSIDE 5TXNEBL5XD NATION]

like i said im soory moe but just like you have racist @$$ blacks you do have racist @$$ arabs.

its well b887d all is well brotha i aint judgin u bro was good though B?

yeah moe but it was till wrong for me to make a broad negative statement like that.but aint nothin really poppin off out here im just tryna see whats good with my nation!!!!!stone love!!!!!

[EL^7^EYEZ>CMC<20^]

AS SALAAMU ALAIKUM WA RAHMATU LLAHI WA BARAKATAHU.....!! IsLaM MooRs, SToNe LoVe To ALL My People iN THe ABPSN. To Answer that Moes Question in Regards to The Meaning of (SAW) iT Does Not Mean Subhana Wa'ta Ala It Means Sala Allahu Allahi Wa Salaam Which iN Arabic Means Peace Be Upon Him (PBUH). And To CoRReCT THe Other False Statement Made iN Regards to Noble Drew Ali Being a Shriner Where Did That Info Come From??? He Was Never a Shriner.....WD Fard Was NDA's Chofeur and Elijah Poole Bey was One of NDA's Students in The MST of A. Ya DiGG??? ALL iS WeLL ~JiWe PeNDa~ To ALL My SToNeS Across the Nation. [72 x 5^]=3^6^0
Ma Salaam

[DADDY_LON9_$TROKE]

I posted up those youtube videos you mentioned...
Whoever that guy is absolutely lost. He's taking things on face value, and not grasping the understanding of what's written in Noble Drew Ali's (R.I.P.) measures. He doesn't see the relevence and the truth in the scriptures he was reading. He kinda sound like some guy that just got out of jail, read two books about "Africa", picked up a pcp habit, and started preaching some nonsense on the streets. LOL I couldn't even watch the whole videos, that sh*t was so off the wall.

wat up moe.yeah i saw those videos abou the guy dissin moes and sh*t.that nigga is just foolish as hell but he was right about one thing those arabs and turks are some racist assholes for real i kan agrre with him on that.

EY FAM WHT U MEAN BY but he was right about one thing those arabs and turks are some racist assholes for real i kan agrre with him on that.

BECAUSE IMA ARAB MOE SINCE BIRTH JOE AND KEEP IT 100

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unbdRYXCMcI

[I5lamicmoe5]

like i said im soory moe but just like you have racist @$$ blacks you do have racist @$$ arabs.

its well b887d all is well brotha i aint judgin u bro was good though B?

yeah moe but it was till wrong for me to make a broad negative statement like that.but aint nothin really poppin off out here im just tryna see whats good with my nation!!!!!stone love!!!!!

Dont even trip Moe its well brotha all is always well we Brothers and silly beef is a detriment among us BROTHER5 all well Bloood and suuuuuuuuuuuuuu whoooooooooooooooop and my brotha a TTP from Bompton

[I5lamicmoe5]

...AND TO BUSGY WALAIKUM SALAM BROTHER AND NO IT AINT FUNNY ITS JUS PLAIN IGNORANT

You're right, brother, and I didn't mean it like that. I meant it like, basically: everybody thinks Muslims hate everybody who's not Muslim. They think we're at war with the whole world, and that's not true at all. It shouldn't be funny, but it's funny to me how misguided they are. That's why I feel so much better when people really understand the real foundations of Islam. Once Christians and Jews (and others too) understand what "Islam" is really about, they'll accept us - they'll see that our religions are the same (MONOTHEISM), and our beliefs aren't too different from eachother... Salaam

W salam bro.. its all well bro no harm done and yea the media influences a lot of peeps and how they view Islam but its jus a good thing cuz it makes us a Muslims work even hard like another motivation kind of thing and that how Islam bacame what it is today Asalamu Alaykum brotha

[I5lamicmoe5]

I posted up those youtube videos you mentioned...
Whoever that guy is absolutely lost. He's taking things on face value, and not grasping the understanding of what's written in Noble Drew Ali's (R.I.P.) measures. He doesn't see the relevence and the truth in the scriptures he was reading. He kinda sound like some guy that just got out of jail, read two books about "Africa", picked up a pcp habit, and started preaching some nonsense on the streets. LOL I couldn't even watch the whole videos, that sh*t was so off the wall.

wat up moe.yeah i saw those videos abou the guy dissin moes and sh*t.that nigga is just foolish as hell but he was right about one thing those arabs and turks are some racist assholes for real i kan agrre with him on that.

EY FAM WHT U MEAN BY but he was right about one thing those arabs and turks are some racist assholes for real i kan agrre with him on that.

BECAUSE IMA ARAB MOE SINCE BIRTH JOE AND KEEP IT 100

WHT AM I GONNA DO WITH THIS JOE? I KNO WAS DA DEMO BRUH THANKS BUT NO THANKS PEACE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unbdRYXCMcI

[I5lamicmoe5]

Hadith & Sunna: Satanic Innovations...

You probably found that on one of Dr. Rashad Khalifa's websites or something... Even though I disagree with some of his ideologies, I agree on his statements of sunna and hadeeth. They were written and compiled many years after Mohammed's death (up to 250 years later!), and many of the concepts completely conflict with al-Qur'an. I used to study and believe in some of them, but nowadays, I disregard all of them, especially since al-Qur'an says that the Scripture is "fully detailed" and it "explains all things"...

W Salam bro.. Sunnah is as much guidance as the Qu'ran Majeed is akhi. For example the Qu'ran states to pray Salah 5 times a day correct, but does not tell us how to Perform Salah.. same with Wudhu, Hajj, Zakat etc... bro. The Qu'ran and Sunnah go hand in hand bro. You Can't choose one over the Other both are Essential in Guidance for us as the Ummah.
Hadith Qudsi are the sayings of the Prophet Muhammad (Peace and Blessings of Allah be upon him) as revealed to him by the Almighty Allah. Hadith Qudsi (or Sacred Hadith) are so named because, unlike the majority of Hadith which are Prophetic Hadith, their authority (Sanad) is traced back not to the Prophet but to the Almighty.

Among the many definitions given by the early scholars to Sacred Hadith is that of as-Sayyid ash-Sharif al-Jurjani (died in 816 A.H.) in his lexicon At-Tarifat where he says: "A Sacred Hadith is, as to the meaning, from Allah the Almighty; as to the wording, it is from the messenger of Allah (peace be upon him). It is that which Allah the Almighty has communicated to His Prophet through revelation or in dream, and he, peace be upon him, has communicated it in his own words. Thus Qur'an is superior to it because, besides being revealed, it is His wording."

I hear what you're saying, brother, and I understand exactly where you're coming from. I used to study sunna and hadeeths religiously, and I applied some of their ideals even when they seemed to contradict the Scripture. However, after a while of study and recitation, I saw a few conflicting concepts in the hadeeths. For example, the sunna teaches us to pray 5 times a day, but al-Qur'an only mentions 3 (or 2, depending on how you interpret the Scripture). The sunna teaches 8 steps to complete wudhu, but al-Qur'an only teaches 4. The sunna and hadeeths refer to Mohammed as "illiterate", whereas al-Qur'an-Majeed says that the prophet wrote and recited the Scripture sent down to him. And there are even other instances regarded highly in the sunna that are completely rejected in al-Qur'an-Majeed, including placing the prophet's name alongside AR-RAHMAN in the shahada...

I've read many of the ahadeeth, and some of them sound reasonable, while other don't. I've never seen the "Sacred Hadeeth" sent down by God, though - the Scripture says that the Qur'an was God's Message to the worlds, even stating that 'nothing has been left out of it' (6:38)... If God (Allah) states that His Qur'an is "fully detailed" (6:114), why do we need the hadeeths and sunna? The prophet was even warned by God Himself against teaching any religious doctrines other than what al-Qur'an contains - if he did so, God would surely and severely punish him... I'm not trying to question your beliefs, ahki, as you know I held the same beliefs in the past. I just wanna know what you think of these concepts, based on al-Qur'an and, insha'llah, we can come to a reasonable conclusion...

Asalamu alaykum bro my badd for the late reply but here is a link this one brother gave me and inshallah it will answer your questions and concerns akhi.. holla at me in a PM let me know wht u think brotha
http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/Sate ... 9503543276

[WESTSIDE 5TXNEBL5XD NATION]

like i said im soory moe but just like you have racist @$$ blacks you do have racist @$$ arabs.

its well b887d all is well brotha i aint judgin u bro was good though B?

yeah moe but it was till wrong for me to make a broad negative statement like that.but aint nothin really poppin off out here im just tryna see whats good with my nation!!!!!stone love!!!!!

Dont even trip Moe its well brotha all is always well we Brothers and silly beef is a detriment among us BROTHER5 all well Bloood and suuuuuuuuuuuuuu whoooooooooooooooop and my brotha a TTP from Bompton

REAL TALK MOE!!!!!BUT LET ME ASK YOU A QUESTION.DO YOU PRACTICE SUNNI ISLAM?

[I5lamicmoe5]

Yea i do Moe, i practice Islam according the Qu'ran and Sunnah of the Prophet Muhammad(PBUH)... I had the Blessing if Being Born into a Muslim Household so u can say i have birthrights to be a Stone.. when I was younger all the Imams taught me the Sunni way of Being a Muslim. so Allhumdulilah I was one of the blessed to Be Born a Muslim

[WESTSIDE 5TXNEBL5XD NATION]

Yea i do Moe, i practice Islam according the Qu'ran and Sunnah of the Prophet Muhammad(PBUH)... I had the Blessing if Being Born into a Muslim Household so u can say i have birthrights to be a Stone.. when I was younger all the Imams taught me the Sunni way of Being a Muslim. so Allhumdulilah I was one of the blessed to Be Born a Muslim

SO YOURE DEFINTLY STANDING ON THE SQUARE MOE!!!!!STONE LOVE!!!!!

[I5lamicmoe5]

im trying to Moe u kno but like Lupe fiasco said the Blessings in the struggle so im jus stayin on my square and doin my thang with Allah(SWT) guidance and help of course bro

[WESTSIDE 5TXNEBL5XD NATION]

im trying to Moe u kno but like Lupe fiasco said the Blessings in the struggle so im jus stayin on my square and doin my thang with Allah(SWT) guidance and help of course bro

i kan relate to dat moe.stone love

[buGsy]

Asalamu alaykum bro my badd for the late reply but here is a link this one brother gave me and inshallah it will answer your questions and concerns akhi.. holla at me in a PM let me know wht u think brotha
http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/Sate ... 9503543276

Wa'alaikum Salaam, bro. I took a look at that website you posted, and it was very intersting... However, the whole theme of it was based on the conclusion that Al-Qur'an is not complete without the Sunna and Hadeeths, and this conclusion is refuted by the Scripture itself. Al-Qur'an clearly states that it is "fully detailed" and "complete" - one verse about Al-Kitab is literally translated as "explaining all things"... Scream at me in a PM if you wanna chat, akhi. Salaam.

[WESTSIDE 5TXNEBL5XD NATION]

hey i was noticin that the el rukn moes bak in the day kalled them selves "mooorish american sunni muslims" whats up with that? but ido know that malik konverted to orthodox sunni islam.

[YaRDie_HBo]

^^^ I DON'T HAVE ANY KNOWLEDGE ON THAT BUT BEING A MOORISH AMERICAN MOSLEM DIFFERS FROM CALLING ONESELF A MOORISH AMERICAN SUNNI MUSLIM.. THE TEMPLE IS A WHOLE OTHER BALL GAME WHEN IT COMES TO ISLAM.. SO MAYBE THE EL RUKNS GOT NATIONALIZED YET FOLLOWED THE SUNNAH AT THE SAME TIME INSTEAD OF PRACTING THE ISLAM RELIGION OF THE TEMPLE..

[WESTSIDE 5TXNEBL5XD NATION]

^^^ I DON'T HAVE ANY KNOWLEDGE ON THAT BUT BEING A MOORISH AMERICAN MOSLEM DIFFERS FROM CALLING ONESELF A MOORISH AMERICAN SUNNI MUSLIM.. THE TEMPLE IS A WHOLE OTHER BALL GAME WHEN IT COMES TO ISLAM.. SO MAYBE THE EL RUKNS GOT NATIONALIZED YET FOLLOWED THE SUNNAH AT THE SAME TIME INSTEAD OF PRACTING THE ISLAM RELIGION OF THE TEMPLE..

THANK YOU MOE.DAT WA5 WAT I WA5 THINKIN.

[YaRDie_HBo]

ALL IS WELL MOE

[WESTSIDE 5TXNEBL5XD NATION]

ALL IS WELL MOE

5TONE LOVE MOE

[ZuluMC7]

I didn't watch the whole series of videos, but he does raise some interesting points. He just does it disrespectfully, and has a few things twisted around. But what caught my attention is that he points out the similarities between the (7) Koran and the Aquarian Gospel of Jesus Christ. What do you Moors think about that?

[YaRDie_HBo]

THE FIRST HALF OF THE KORAN IS THE AKASHIC RECORDS.. THE CIRCLE 7 CLEARLY STATES THE BOOK WAS PREPARED BY NOBLE DREW ALI, NOT WRITTEN BY HIM.. IT ALSO STATES THE LESSONS OF THE BOOK COME FROM THE MOSLEMS OF PALENSTINE, INDIA, AND EGYPT.. AND ITS NO SECRET THE LESSONS ON JESUS IN THE CIRCLE 7 IS FROM THE AKASHIC RECORDS.. THE 2ND HALF OF THE CIRCLE 7 KORAN IS WHAT NOBLE DREW ALI IS THE AUTHOR OF.. THE AQUARIAN GOSPEL OF JESUS IS JUST A BOOK OF THE WHOLE AKASHIC RECORDS TRANSCRIBED..

[buGsy]

I think it is pure BLASPHEMY for a man to collect a book and call it "Koran", placing this man-made book above the message revealed to Mohammed by God. That's my opinion, though - others may feel differently...

[TREYZ_FA_DAYZ]

BUGSY WHAT MOSQUE YOU GO TO?

[ZuluMC7]

THE FIRST HALF OF THE KORAN IS THE AKASHIC RECORDS.. THE CIRCLE 7 CLEARLY STATES THE BOOK WAS PREPARED BY NOBLE DREW ALI, NOT WRITTEN BY HIM.. IT ALSO STATES THE LESSONS OF THE BOOK COME FROM THE MOSLEMS OF PALENSTINE, INDIA, AND EGYPT.. AND ITS NO SECRET THE LESSONS ON JESUS IN THE CIRCLE 7 IS FROM THE AKASHIC RECORDS.. THE 2ND HALF OF THE CIRCLE 7 KORAN IS WHAT NOBLE DREW ALI IS THE AUTHOR OF.. THE AQUARIAN GOSPEL OF JESUS IS JUST A BOOK OF THE WHOLE AKASHIC RECORDS TRANSCRIBED..

Thanks for the clarification sister.

[YaRDie_HBo]

BUGSY I UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM.. BUT I DON'T THINK NOBLE DREW ALI EVER PORTRAYED HIS KORAN ABOVE THE HOLY QU'RAN OF MECCA.. REMEMBER THAT NOBLE DREW ALI MESSAGE WAS TO THE FALLEN PEOPLE IN THE AMERICAS.. IT WAS TO HELP BRING US OUT OF THE LIGHT AND KNOW THE TRUTH ABOUT WHO WE ARE AND WHERE WE COME FROM.. THE CIRCLE 7 WASN'T A HOLY TEXT TO START A NEW RELIGION ABOUT WHAT PROPHET MUHAMMAD (PBUH) ALREADY HAD ESTABLISHED.. I'M JUST TRYNA SAY THE CIRCLE 7 IS AIMED AT HIS MISSION OF UPLIFTING OF FALLEN HUMANITY HERE IN THE AMERICAS RATHER THAN TRYING TO OVERRIDE ISLAM AS A WHOLE.. THE CIRCLE 7 HAS A FEW LESSONS FROM THE AKASHIC RECORDS AND INSTRUCTIONS WRITTEN BY HIMSELF.. ITS NOT CONSIDERED AN HOLY TEXT.. AND BEING THAT THE TEXT WAS MOST SUITED TO OUR SITUATION IS WHY HE USED KORAN INSTEAD OF QU'RAN WHICH PROBABLY WOULD'VE RAISED WAY MORE CONTROVERSY.. NOBLE DREW ALI WAS A SMART MAN.. BUT SOME OF THESE MOORISH SCIENCE TEMPLE LEADERS DO ALTER NOBLE DREW ALI TEACHINGS AND MAKE UP THEIR OWN LAWS... IF SOMETHING IS QUESTIONABLE JUST STUDY WHAT NOBLE DREW ALI SAID HIMSELF.. THAT'S JUST HOW I SEE IT..

[TREYZ_FA_DAYZ]

BUGSY I UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM.. BUT I DON'T THINK NOBLE DREW ALI EVER PORTRAYED HIS KORAN ABOVE THE HOLY QU'RAN OF MECCA.. REMEMBER THAT NOBLE DREW ALI MESSAGE WAS TO THE FALLEN PEOPLE IN THE AMERICAS.. IT WAS TO HELP BRING US OUT OF THE LIGHT AND KNOW THE TRUTH ABOUT WHO WE ARE AND WHERE WE COME FROM.. THE CIRCLE 7 WASN'T A HOLY TEXT TO START A NEW RELIGION ABOUT WHAT PROPHET MUHAMMAD (PBUH) ALREADY HAD ESTABLISHED.. I'M JUST TRYNA SAY THE CIRCLE 7 IS AIMED AT HIS MISSION OF UPLIFTING OF FALLEN HUMANITY HERE IN THE AMERICAS RATHER THAN TRYING TO OVERRIDE ISLAM AS A WHOLE.. THE CIRCLE 7 HAS A FEW LESSONS FROM THE AKASHIC RECORDS AND INSTRUCTIONS WRITTEN BY HIMSELF.. ITS NOT CONSIDERED AN HOLY TEXT.. AND BEING THAT THE TEXT WAS MOST SUITED TO OUR SITUATION IS WHY HE USED KORAN INSTEAD OF QU'RAN WHICH PROBABLY WOULD'VE RAISED WAY MORE CONTROVERSY.. NOBLE DREW ALI WAS A SMART MAN.. BUT SOME OF THESE MOORISH SCIENCE TEMPLE LEADERS DO ALTER NOBLE DREW ALI TEACHINGS AND MAKE UP THEIR OWN LAWS... IF SOMETHING IS QUESTIONABLE JUST STUDY WHAT NOBLE DREW ALI SAID HIMSELF.. THAT'S JUST HOW I SEE IT..

HOW MANY DIFFERENT FACTIONS OF MOORISH SCIENCE TEMPLE OF AMERICA? YOU FROM THE 1928 PORTION?

[YaRDie_HBo]

I KNO OF 3 DIFFERENT FACTIONS PERSONALLY.. I'VE HEARD OF OTHERS BUT NEVER MET ANY PERSONALLY.. AND YES I STUDY UNDER THE 1928 PORTION..

[WESTSIDE 5TXNEBL5XD NATION]

ISLAM MOES BUT LET ME ASK YALL THIS DO YOU THINK IT IS WRONG FOR STONES OR MOES TO BE CHRISTIANS????BECAUSE MOST MOES ARE BLACK SO THEY MOST LIKELY GREW UP BAPTIST PENTECOSTAL OR HOLINESS.

[YaRDie_HBo]

ISLAM MOE..

ONCE YOU KNO WHAT THE BEING A 5TONE OR MOE IS ALL ABOUT I DON'T SEE HOW ONES CAN CALL THEMSELVES A CHRISTIAN.......

[ZuluMC7]

ISLAM MOE..

ONCE YOU KNO WHAT THE BEING A 5TONE OR MOE IS ALL ABOUT I DON'T SEE HOW ONES CAN CALL THEMSELVES A CHRISTIAN.......

For real. Especially not in the contemporary sense. When people ask me if I'm a Christian, I tell them I'm KRST-ian (karast-ian). Is god not man in perfection?

[buGsy]

BUGSY I UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM.. BUT I DON'T THINK NOBLE DREW ALI EVER PORTRAYED HIS KORAN ABOVE THE HOLY QU'RAN OF MECCA.. THE CIRCLE 7 HAS A FEW LESSONS FROM THE AKASHIC RECORDS AND INSTRUCTIONS WRITTEN BY HIMSELF.. ITS NOT CONSIDERED AN HOLY TEXT..

You're surely mistaken, sister, but indeed you are possessing of some knowledge, and that is truly commendable. However, in Drew Ali's testament, he says, even in the "Historical Message" memorandum:

Inspired by the lofty teachings of the Koran, we have it as the revealed word of God Allah. We shall foster the principles of its teachings among our members. This is our religious privilege as American citizens, under the laws of one of the greatest documents of all time, the American Constitution.

Labelling this falsified document as the supreme word of God (Allah) is a certain blasphemy, and so was Timothy Drew's classifying himself as a prophet. He claimed to be the final prophet, and so did his followers who started their own schools - they call claimed to be "the final prophet", even though the Qur'an presented to Mohammed said that he was the "seal of the prophets" (the final one). He even calls those who practice the system of submission that Mohammed taught, through the Arabic Qur'an, "Mohammedans", and their system of belief is "Mohammedanism". So, if they claim to follow the religion of their forefathers, which is islam/submission, then they are all blasphemers...

IT WAS TO HELP BRING US OUT OF THE LIGHT AND KNOW THE TRUTH ABOUT WHO WE ARE AND WHERE WE COME FROM.. THE CIRCLE 7 WASN'T A HOLY TEXT TO START A NEW RELIGION ABOUT WHAT PROPHET MUHAMMAD (PBUH) ALREADY HAD ESTABLISHED.. I'M JUST TRYNA SAY THE CIRCLE 7 IS AIMED AT HIS MISSION OF UPLIFTING OF FALLEN HUMANITY HERE IN THE AMERICAS RATHER THAN TRYING TO OVERRIDE ISLAM AS A WHOLE..

Indeed, this is not so, sister. Drew Ali revealed this text with an intent of starting his own "Moorish Muslim" religion, and he knew it conflicted with the teachings of Mohammed in many ways. That's why he shielded his concepts behind separate concepts (i.e. "knowledge of self", "uplifting the Moors", etc.) - he was creating his own system of belief and making himself the "divine prophet" of the Almighty, the only person capable of providing the divine instructions from God to Moorish humanity. He was no hero at all, he was surely an imposter, and God (Allah) knows the truth of all things. Timothy Drew (a.k.a. "Drew Ali") steered many away from the straight path with his falsified concepts, and he will surely reap the sums of his actions 10-fold. Certainly, God is the judge of us all.

[WESTSIDE 5TXNEBL5XD NATION]

BUGSY I UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM.. BUT I DON'T THINK NOBLE DREW ALI EVER PORTRAYED HIS KORAN ABOVE THE HOLY QU'RAN OF MECCA.. THE CIRCLE 7 HAS A FEW LESSONS FROM THE AKASHIC RECORDS AND INSTRUCTIONS WRITTEN BY HIMSELF.. ITS NOT CONSIDERED AN HOLY TEXT..

You're surely mistaken, sister, but indeed you are possessing of some knowledge, and that is truly commendable. However, in Drew Ali's testament, he says, even in the "Historical Message" memorandum:

Inspired by the lofty teachings of the Koran, we have it as the revealed word of God Allah. We shall foster the principles of its teachings among our members. This is our religious privilege as American citizens, under the laws of one of the greatest documents of all time, the American Constitution.

Labelling this falsified document as the supreme word of God (Allah) is a certain blasphemy, and so was Timothy Drew's classifying himself as a prophet. He claimed to be the final prophet, and so did his followers who started their own schools - they call claimed to be "the final prophet", even though the Qur'an presented to Mohammed said that he was the "seal of the prophets" (the final one). He even calls those who practice the system of submission that Mohammed taught, through the Arabic Qur'an, "Mohammedans", and their system of belief is "Mohammedanism". So, if they claim to follow the religion of their forefathers, which is islam/submission, then they are all blasphemers...

IT WAS TO HELP BRING US OUT OF THE LIGHT AND KNOW THE TRUTH ABOUT WHO WE ARE AND WHERE WE COME FROM.. THE CIRCLE 7 WASN'T A HOLY TEXT TO START A NEW RELIGION ABOUT WHAT PROPHET MUHAMMAD (PBUH) ALREADY HAD ESTABLISHED.. I'M JUST TRYNA SAY THE CIRCLE 7 IS AIMED AT HIS MISSION OF UPLIFTING OF FALLEN HUMANITY HERE IN THE AMERICAS RATHER THAN TRYING TO OVERRIDE ISLAM AS A WHOLE..

Indeed, this is not so, sister. Drew Ali revealed this text with an intent of starting his own "Moorish Muslim" religion, and he knew it conflicted with the teachings of Mohammed in many ways. That's why he shielded his concepts behind separate concepts (i.e. "knowledge of self", "uplifting the Moors", etc.) - he was creating his own system of belief and making himself the "divine prophet" of the Almighty, the only person capable of providing the divine instructions from God to Moorish humanity. He was no hero at all, he was surely an imposter, and God (Allah) knows the truth of all things. Timothy Drew (a.k.a. "Drew Ali") steered many away from the straight path with his falsified concepts, and he will surely reap the sums of his actions 10-fold. Certainly, God is the judge of us all.

IM NOT GONNA DISS NOBLE DREW ALI BUT HE IS NOT ACCEPTED BY THE ORTHODOX SUNNI MUSLIM MAJORITY BUT ALI DIDNT REALLY WANT TO START A RELIGION HE WAS JUST TRYING TO UPLIFT BLACKS OUT OF OUR SLAVE STATE OF MIND.

[YaRDie_HBo]

IDK HOW ONES CAN SAY HIS INTENTIONS WERE TO CREATE IS OWN FORM OF ISLAM.. HIS MESSAGE WAS CLEARLY FOR THE UNCONSCIOUS ASIATICS IN THE AMERICAS WHO WERE CONSIDERED "DEAD" OR "IN THE DARK" FOR LACK OF BETTER WORDING..NOW SOME MOORS MAY HAVE STARTED THEIR OWN FORM OF ISLAM USING HIS NAME.. THE PROPHET TITLE I CAN UNDERSTAND, BUT I NEVER REFER TO NOBLE DREW ALI AS A PROPHET.. YOU HAVE SOME WHO CALL HIM PROPHET AND SOME WHO DON'T.. I STRONGLY DISAGREE WIT HIM INTENDING TO START HIS OWN RELIGION.. IF THAT WAS THE CASE WE WOULDN'T HAVE ZULUS, GODS, RASTAS, OTHER CONSCIOUS ORGANIZATIONS, NOR EVEN "MOHAMMEDIANS" STUDYING MOORISH SCIENCE... MORE THAN ANYTHING, HE SPOKE ON THE STUDY OF SELF..

[YaRDie_HBo]

I WAS JUST THINKIN...
HOW CAN ONES EVEN GET THE IDEA THAT THE CIRCLE 7 KORAN CAN BE CHALLENGED AGAINST THE HOLY QU'RAN OF MECCA??

[buGsy]

I WAS JUST THINKIN...
HOW CAN ONES EVEN GET THE IDEA THAT THE CIRCLE 7 KORAN CAN BE CHALLENGED AGAINST THE HOLY QU'RAN OF MECCA??

That's what the "noble prophet" Timothy Drew (a.k.a. "Drew Ali") taught his followers. He preached that gaining knowledge the Qur'an comes secondary to knowledge of self, and he based his ideologies on combining sects to form one of his own. That's why he changed his name to an Arabic one, "Sharif Abdul Ali", on his passage (a Sunni Muslim tradition); adopted North African customs (from studying Egyptian rites); adopted many of the beliefs and foundations of Sufi Muslims; he gained symbolism from FreeMasonry (which is also based on Middle-Eastern Sufi'ism); he presented himself as a "prophet", which is contradictory to Islam in the Qur'an... I'm not saying all of his beliefs were false - that's not the case at all. I just don't agree with some of his ideologies and practices, and I don't agree with him putting the human writings of the "(7) Koran" above the Arabic Qur'an sent to Mohammed...

[YaRDie_HBo]

THINK ABOUT THIS... ITS 1913, BLACKS SO CALLED JUS GOT OUT OF SLAVERY ABOUT 40 YEARS PRIOR.. ISLAM ISN'T EVEN RECOGNIZED AS A FACTOR AMONG BLACKS.. BLACKS ARE STILL FOLLOWING THE CHRISTIAN DEMO AND EUROPEAN LABELS.. BASICALLY THEY'RE STILL IN THE DARK.. SO HOW CAN HE JUST BRING A WHOLE FOREIGN RELIGION TO THESE MASSES OF PEOPLE IN THE DARK FOR THEM TO UNDERSTAND?? EVEN IN THIS DAY AND AGE I WOULD PREFER HAVING KNOWLEDGE OF SELF BEFORE I JUMP INTO A RELIGION NOT KNOWN AMONGST MY PEOPLE.. YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND SELF BEFORE YOU CAN UNDERSTAND FOREIGN DOCTRINES.. THAT'S EXACTLY HOW THE EUROPEANS WERE ABLE TO ENSLAVE THE MINDS OF THE MOORS BY TAKING AWAY THEY'RE ABILITY TO KNOW WHO THEY REALLY ARE.. THEN WITH THAT IT WAS MUCH EASIER TO MOLD THEM INTO BELIEVING THEY'RE SOMETHING THAT THEY'RE NOT.. ALL IN ALL I AGREE KNOWLEDGE OF SELF COMES FIRST BEFORE FOLLOWING ANY RELIGION.. AS YOU CAN SEE CHRISTIANITY WAS USED TO OPPOSE THAT.. NOW OUR CHRISTIAN BLACKS ARE IN THE DARK AS A RESULT..

AND I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW YOU SAY NOBLE DREW ALI FOLLOWED SUNNAH, BUT PREVIOUSLY STATED HIS INTENTIONS WERE TO START HIS OWN FORM OF ISLAM???