WHAT THE FUCK ARE BLACK FEATURES???

[sonofmongol]

The prototype of the group of people now labelled as "black" we all can agree, wherever they originated from and wherever they settled did not speak english, therefore the term black didn't mean shit to them niether did "ebony,negro,negroid,nigga, or nun of that, so by saying black your referring to a group who only exist in the mind of the perciever of what black is, just how white niggas seen diffrent species of beings some with diffrent characteristics like wings,no appendages, elongated snouts, and say shit like ay thats a bird, or a snake or a elephant, they would percieve these beings and label them which is the most subtle form of control because they now had control of the identity of these beings, thats why you will never witness unified blacks because how can you identify with the labels of the enemy, it didn't come from your perception so you can never identify with that, plus most niggas is brown in color not black only some groups southern sudanese,tamil,ect are realistically almost black, but i'ma end my humble opinion with this, accredited science shit is fairytales fuck all that darwinian shit and most of ya'll are getting information from off the internet from bologny ass europeans ya'll can't say for sure, just like they can't, these people assumed and hypothosized all they shit they weren't there so they can't say shit thats concrete written in stone, and they said humanity originated in africa so they could back up their claims that africans are closer to primates who evolved in africa FAIRYTALE CAUCASOID COLLEGE BULLSHIT my so called brothas

EXACTLY, WE HAVE NO DIRECT ACCESS TO THE PROCESS OF EVOLUTION, OUR RECONSTRUCTION OF SUCH IS PURE IMAGINATION!

i agree, its just all imagination... cause all they got now is just multiple different theories not proven facts.

[sonofmongol]

SO, DO ALL RACES ON THE PLANET HAVE A COMMON ANCESTOR OR NOT?

GENETICS DATA CLAIMS WE DO AND THROUGH MINOR MUTATION ARE WE DIFFERENT SUCH AS SKIN COLOR, HAIR TYPE, EYE COLOR, NOSE, CRANIUM ECT... WHICH ARE REALLY SUPERFICIAL DIFFERENCES...AND REALLY THE TIP OF A VERY HUGE ICEBERG......HOWEVER, UNDERNEATH THE SURFACE ARE WE REALLY THE SAME GENETIC MAKEUP!

IS THERE ANY GENETIC DATA POINTING TO SEPERATE ANCESTRAL LINEAGE FOR THE RACES?

common ancestor... i doubt it, but humans did mix with each other in ancient times, thats probably why we share some haplogroups with groups thousands of miles away.

[sonofmongol]

I blieve all modern humans come from mtdna eve & adam..da khoisan n pygmies gave birth 2 da world imo...so u think all of da haplogroup maps r wrong?

Polygenism/khoisan n pygmies, STATES THAT KHOISAN CREATED THREE SEPERATE LINEAGE OF RACES FROM CLAY OF DIFFERENT COLORS....WHICH, MEANS(CORRECT ME IF I AM WRONG) WE DON'T HAVE A COMMON ANCESTOR/LINEAGE...UNLESS GOD, CAN BE CONSIDERED AN ANCESTORY!


MY View…that there are heritable characteristics, possessed by members of our species, which allow us to divide them into a small set of races, in such a way that all the members of these races share certain traits and tendencies with each other that they do not share with members of any other race."

I AGREE WITH, Kwame Anthony Appiah!

i agree with everything u just said.

[brownbomber]

I blieve all modern humans come from mtdna eve & adam..da khoisan n pygmies gave birth 2 da world imo...so u think all of da haplogroup maps r wrong?

Polygenism/khoisan n pygmies, STATES THAT KHOISAN CREATED THREE SEPERATE LINEAGE OF RACES FROM CLAY OF DIFFERENT COLORS....WHICH, MEANS(CORRECT ME IF I AM WRONG) WE DON'T HAVE A COMMON ANCESTOR/LINEAGE...UNLESS GOD, CAN BE CONSIDERED AN ANCESTORY!


MY View…that there are heritable characteristics, possessed by members of our species, which allow us to divide them into a small set of races, in such a way that all the members of these races share certain traits and tendencies with each other that they do not share with members of any other race."

I AGREE WITH, Kwame Anthony Appiah!

i agree with everything u just said.

da khoi khoi & da san both came from a common ancestor I blieve dey represent cain & able n da bible jus my opinion @ sonofmongol dis is da same evidence u use when say dat da amerindian comes from east asians n when u said da persians came from asians n da midwest section,but all of a sudden u don't blieve it when it comes 2 africa.. @kontraband so accordn 2 u how many different races xist?

[kontraband]

I blieve all modern humans come from mtdna eve & adam..da khoisan n pygmies gave birth 2 da world imo...so u think all of da haplogroup maps r wrong?

Polygenism/khoisan n pygmies, STATES THAT KHOISAN CREATED THREE SEPERATE LINEAGE OF RACES FROM CLAY OF DIFFERENT COLORS....WHICH, MEANS(CORRECT ME IF I AM WRONG) WE DON'T HAVE A COMMON ANCESTOR/LINEAGE...UNLESS GOD, CAN BE CONSIDERED AN ANCESTORY!


MY View…that there are heritable characteristics, possessed by members of our species, which allow us to divide them into a small set of races, in such a way that all the members of these races share certain traits and tendencies with each other that they do not share with members of any other race."

I AGREE WITH, Kwame Anthony Appiah!

i agree with everything u just said.

da khoi khoi & da san both came from a common ancestor I blieve dey represent cain & able n da bible jus my opinion @ sonofmongol dis is da same evidence u use when say dat da amerindian comes from east asians n when u said da persians came from asians n da midwest section,but all of a sudden u don't blieve it when it comes 2 africa.. @kontraband so accordn 2 u how many different races xist?

I WILL ANSWER YOUR QUESTION WITH RESPECT! HOWEVER, ITS NOT ACCORDING TO ME! I COUNT THREE RACES!

[sonofmongol]

I blieve all modern humans come from mtdna eve & adam..da khoisan n pygmies gave birth 2 da world imo...so u think all of da haplogroup maps r wrong?

Polygenism/khoisan n pygmies, STATES THAT KHOISAN CREATED THREE SEPERATE LINEAGE OF RACES FROM CLAY OF DIFFERENT COLORS....WHICH, MEANS(CORRECT ME IF I AM WRONG) WE DON'T HAVE A COMMON ANCESTOR/LINEAGE...UNLESS GOD, CAN BE CONSIDERED AN ANCESTORY!


MY View…that there are heritable characteristics, possessed by members of our species, which allow us to divide them into a small set of races, in such a way that all the members of these races share certain traits and tendencies with each other that they do not share with members of any other race."

I AGREE WITH, Kwame Anthony Appiah!

i agree with everything u just said.

da khoi khoi & da san both came from a common ancestor I blieve dey represent cain & able n da bible jus my opinion @ sonofmongol dis is da same evidence u use when say dat da amerindian comes from east asians n when u said da persians came from asians n da midwest section,but all of a sudden u don't blieve it when it comes 2 africa.. @kontraband so accordn 2 u how many different races xist?

how can persians(iranians) come from asians, when they are asian themselves? u mean they got some dna from east asians...

[sonofmongol]

I blieve all modern humans come from mtdna eve & adam..da khoisan n pygmies gave birth 2 da world imo...so u think all of da haplogroup maps r wrong?

Polygenism/khoisan n pygmies, STATES THAT KHOISAN CREATED THREE SEPERATE LINEAGE OF RACES FROM CLAY OF DIFFERENT COLORS....WHICH, MEANS(CORRECT ME IF I AM WRONG) WE DON'T HAVE A COMMON ANCESTOR/LINEAGE...UNLESS GOD, CAN BE CONSIDERED AN ANCESTORY!


MY View…that there are heritable characteristics, possessed by members of our species, which allow us to divide them into a small set of races, in such a way that all the members of these races share certain traits and tendencies with each other that they do not share with members of any other race."

I AGREE WITH, Kwame Anthony Appiah!

i agree with everything u just said.

da khoi khoi & da san both came from a common ancestor I blieve dey represent cain & able n da bible jus my opinion @ sonofmongol dis is da same evidence u use when say dat da amerindian comes from east asians n when u said da persians came from asians n da midwest section,but all of a sudden u don't blieve it when it comes 2 africa.. @kontraband so accordn 2 u how many different races xist?

how can persians(iranians) come from asians, when they are asian themselves? u mean they got some dna from east asians...

[sonofmongol]

I blieve all modern humans come from mtdna eve & adam..da khoisan n pygmies gave birth 2 da world imo...so u think all of da haplogroup maps r wrong?

Polygenism/khoisan n pygmies, STATES THAT KHOISAN CREATED THREE SEPERATE LINEAGE OF RACES FROM CLAY OF DIFFERENT COLORS....WHICH, MEANS(CORRECT ME IF I AM WRONG) WE DON'T HAVE A COMMON ANCESTOR/LINEAGE...UNLESS GOD, CAN BE CONSIDERED AN ANCESTORY!


MY View…that there are heritable characteristics, possessed by members of our species, which allow us to divide them into a small set of races, in such a way that all the members of these races share certain traits and tendencies with each other that they do not share with members of any other race."

I AGREE WITH, Kwame Anthony Appiah!

i agree with everything u just said.

da khoi khoi & da san both came from a common ancestor I blieve dey represent cain & able n da bible jus my opinion @ sonofmongol dis is da same evidence u use when say dat da amerindian comes from east asians n when u said da persians came from asians n da midwest section,but all of a sudden u don't blieve it when it comes 2 africa.. @kontraband so accordn 2 u how many different races xist?

I WILL ANSWER YOUR QUESTION WITH RESPECT! HOWEVER, ITS NOT ACCORDING TO ME! I COUNT THREE RACES!

i agree, maybe even 4 races, and the rest are mixtures of these races.

[kontraband]

I blieve all modern humans come from mtdna eve & adam..da khoisan n pygmies gave birth 2 da world imo...so u think all of da haplogroup maps r wrong?

Polygenism/khoisan n pygmies, STATES THAT KHOISAN CREATED THREE SEPERATE LINEAGE OF RACES FROM CLAY OF DIFFERENT COLORS....WHICH, MEANS(CORRECT ME IF I AM WRONG) WE DON'T HAVE A COMMON ANCESTOR/LINEAGE...UNLESS GOD, CAN BE CONSIDERED AN ANCESTORY!


MY View…that there are heritable characteristics, possessed by members of our species, which allow us to divide them into a small set of races, in such a way that all the members of these races share certain traits and tendencies with each other that they do not share with members of any other race."

I AGREE WITH, Kwame Anthony Appiah!

i agree with everything u just said.

da khoi khoi & da san both came from a common ancestor I blieve dey represent cain & able n da bible jus my opinion @ sonofmongol dis is da same evidence u use when say dat da amerindian comes from east asians n when u said da persians came from asians n da midwest section,but all of a sudden u don't blieve it when it comes 2 africa.. @kontraband so accordn 2 u how many different races xist?

I WILL ANSWER YOUR QUESTION WITH RESPECT! HOWEVER, ITS NOT ACCORDING TO ME! I COUNT THREE RACES!

i agree, maybe even 4 races, and the rest are mixtures of these races.

@SONOFAMONGUL EXACTLY......MAYBE FOUR!

[brownbomber]

N wats da name of these 4 races?

[brownbomber]

I blieve all modern humans come from mtdna eve & adam..da khoisan n pygmies gave birth 2 da world imo...so u think all of da haplogroup maps r wrong?

Polygenism/khoisan n pygmies, STATES THAT KHOISAN CREATED THREE SEPERATE LINEAGE OF RACES FROM CLAY OF DIFFERENT COLORS....WHICH, MEANS(CORRECT ME IF I AM WRONG) WE DON'T HAVE A COMMON ANCESTOR/LINEAGE...UNLESS GOD, CAN BE CONSIDERED AN ANCESTORY!


MY View…that there are heritable characteristics, possessed by members of our species, which allow us to divide them into a small set of races, in such a way that all the members of these races share certain traits and tendencies with each other that they do not share with members of any other race."

I AGREE WITH, Kwame Anthony Appiah!

i agree with everything u just said.

da khoi khoi & da san both came from a common ancestor I blieve dey represent cain & able n da bible jus my opinion @ sonofmongol dis is da same evidence u use when say dat da amerindian comes from east asians n when u said da persians came from asians n da midwest section,but all of a sudden u don't blieve it when it comes 2 africa.. @kontraband so accordn 2 u how many different races xist?

how can persians(iranians) come from asians, when they are asian themselves? u mean they got some dna from east asians...

Naw I meant wat I said..it seems 2 me u like 2 pic n choose wat u blieve da haplogroup map clearly lays out da modern human gene migration

[sonofmongol]

I blieve all modern humans come from mtdna eve & adam..da khoisan n pygmies gave birth 2 da world imo...so u think all of da haplogroup maps r wrong?

Polygenism/khoisan n pygmies, STATES THAT KHOISAN CREATED THREE SEPERATE LINEAGE OF RACES FROM CLAY OF DIFFERENT COLORS....WHICH, MEANS(CORRECT ME IF I AM WRONG) WE DON'T HAVE A COMMON ANCESTOR/LINEAGE...UNLESS GOD, CAN BE CONSIDERED AN ANCESTORY!


MY View…that there are heritable characteristics, possessed by members of our species, which allow us to divide them into a small set of races, in such a way that all the members of these races share certain traits and tendencies with each other that they do not share with members of any other race."

I AGREE WITH, Kwame Anthony Appiah!

i agree with everything u just said.

da khoi khoi & da san both came from a common ancestor I blieve dey represent cain & able n da bible jus my opinion @ sonofmongol dis is da same evidence u use when say dat da amerindian comes from east asians n when u said da persians came from asians n da midwest section,but all of a sudden u don't blieve it when it comes 2 africa.. @kontraband so accordn 2 u how many different races xist?

how can persians(iranians) come from asians, when they are asian themselves? u mean they got some dna from east asians...

Naw I meant wat I said..it seems 2 me u like 2 pic n choose wat u blieve da haplogroup map clearly lays out da modern human gene migration

if u meant what u said, then ur dumb... iranians ARE asian themselves... and let me guess u got the haplogroups from wikipedia...

[brownbomber]

U dumb cus u da 1 who said it u didn't say some persians r east asians u said dscend it rite there n da mid west section da name of da thread wad BORICUA MAMI'S...I like how u try 2 use nsults 2 try n side step da issue..its let me kn u running out of gas lol... so answer da? R da haplogroup maps wrong yes/no

[sonofmongol]

U dumb cus u da 1 who said it u didn't say some persians r east asians u said dscend it rite there n da mid west section da name of da thread wad BORICUA MAMI'S...I like how u try 2 use nsults 2 try n side step da issue..its let me kn u running out of gas lol... so answer da? R da haplogroup maps wrong yes/no

lmao, im the dumb one? but ur the one who thought christopher columbus was black...

i said SOME of them are mixed with mongol blood, from the mongol invasion, learn how to read next time moron.

and yes its all wrong.

its also funny, how u go through every post trying to look for mine and reply to it...

[sonofmongol]

its funny how this "brownbomber" is talking about persians, when this topic has nothing to do with it...

hes obsessed with me...

after i schooled his little dumbass, he wants to keep on following me around on here, trying to get me to reply to him... im done with his dumbass.

[brownbomber]

Still side stepn huh..go look @ da thread boricua mamis dats not wat u said don't try 2 clean da shit up now...u said dat da amerindians comes from da east asians where did dat n4 come from...da haplogroup map ...now all of u sudden u don't blieve n it huh...all of wat threads its only been 2...I kno u dun cus u ain't got nutn dats y u side stepn now

[kontraband]

U dumb cus u da 1 who said it u didn't say some persians r east asians u said dscend it rite there n da mid west section da name of da thread wad BORICUA MAMI'S...I like how u try 2 use nsults 2 try n side step da issue..its let me kn u running out of gas lol... so answer da? R da haplogroup maps yes/no

AS FAR AS THE HAPLOGROUP MAPS BEING WRONG...WELL, UM, HUH SUBJECTIVE AT BEST AND COMES DOWN TO INTERPRETATIONS BASED ON WHAT IS KNOWN OR BELIEVED TO BE KNOWN! I BELIEVE WE ARE HEADED IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION, HOWEVER, LIKE A TODDLER CRAWLS BEFORE WALKING....I BELIEVE THE GENETICS IS STILL AN INFANT SCIENCE....POTENTIALLY, A MARKER IS MISSING, SOMETHING COULD OF GONE UNDISCOVERED, OR STILL YET MORE DISCOVERY STILL HAVE YET TO BE DISCOVERED! GENETICS IS STILL CONSIDERED A VERY SPECULATIVE SCIENCE!

SCIENTIST HAVEN'T EVEN DISCOVERED 98% OF THE FUNCTION OF HUMAN DNA, THEREFORE 98% OF THE HUMAN DNA FUNCTION IS STILL LEFT UNDISCOVERED!

[brownbomber]

Wat ever da case mayb its da best evidence around n until a nu discovery is made I'm stickn wit dis.u haven't showed me n e thing dat says otherwise....

[kontraband]

Wat ever da case mayb its da best evidence around n until a nu discovery is made I'm stickn wit dis.u haven't showed me n e thing dat says otherwise....

I WILL.......NOT TODAY....AND ITS NOT THAT I DON'T HAVE THE DATA....TO BE CONTINUED...

[BGBADAZZ]

Its evident that some darkskin niggas and black women have an inferiority complex. black people are NOT a Monolith! we come in MANY DIFFERENT SHADES, TONES AND FEATURES. so just like these other niggas that scream "black features" this and that nigga MIXED or they LIGHT SKIN is just promoting WHITE SUPREMACY. because whites have conditioned niggas to believe that black is DARK SKIN, BIG LIPS AND BIG NOSES. these clowns act like they never heard of the menstral show. read a damn book and stop trying to put black people in a box.

we got light skin people cause white people rapped our ancestors wasn no redbones or yella niggas n the cotton field

[sonofmongol]

Its evident that some darkskin niggas and black women have an inferiority complex. black people are NOT a Monolith! we come in MANY DIFFERENT SHADES, TONES AND FEATURES. so just like these other niggas that scream "black features" this and that nigga MIXED or they LIGHT SKIN is just promoting WHITE SUPREMACY. because whites have conditioned niggas to believe that black is DARK SKIN, BIG LIPS AND BIG NOSES. these clowns act like they never heard of the menstral show. read a damn book and stop trying to put black people in a box.

we got light skin people cause white people rapped our ancestors wasn no redbones or yella niggas n the cotton field

real shit...

[JerseyCity201]

polygenism VS monogenism.

yup, and most scientists agree with polygenism.

-i wouldn't really suggest you lean toward the idea that this opinion on poly vs mono is majority on the poly side..

there's a good deal of energy behind the idea of multiple lineages, but the ball's still in the monogenism court. and has been there, for a while if you catch my drift.

i highly doubt all humans came from one source... we all look too different, and our genetics are far too different as well.

WE ALL STARTED FROM AFRICA... DOUBT MOST OF U WILL WATCH THIS BUT IT SHOWS THE OLDEST KNOWN GROUP OF PEOPLE FROM AFRICA...THE MIGRATION ROUTES PEOPLE TOOK BEFORE OTHER RACES WERE FORMED ETC. ANYBODY DAT LIKES TO LEARN SHOULD WATCH....WE ALL STARTED AS ONE "RACE"
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRVhgJjJwTw[/youtube]

the out of africa is just a theory... not a proven fact... there is a lot of disagreements and controversy on this.

they are saying the oldest people are the bushmens, but that dont mean that all humans came from them... the oldest primates lived in east asia and that dont mean that all primates came from them.

WHAT PRIMATES ARE U SPEAKING OF? U HAVE A LINK?

[freddiefourfingers]

genetics isnt a big stretch the haplogroup c, and o, is only found in east asian, native american and pacific islands populations, nowhere else.

oh yea, and i forgot to add the haplogroup b and d, is also only found in east asian, native american, and pacific islands populations, nowhere else.

-i think what you're trying to do, is only use half of the story while ignoring the rest..

i actually made the effort to go through a few sources of my own, and i brushed on the different haplogroups and how they are dispersed. i see what you're talking about, but i don't think you're seeing the rest of the story.

those haplogroups, DO NOT in any way shape or form, present evidence for sub-species human division. they are just haplogroups, not lines of demarcation, nor evidence of distinction!! they still ultimately are the product of the L haplotype we see being dominant in Africa. that is still the parent haplotype.

over the millenia, as populations migrated, mated, mixed up different gene frequences, so on and so on, polymorphism became a noticeable factor that's attributed to things like the haplogroups you mentioned. but they didn't create any sort of ancestry vacuum or invoke any need to assert parenthood by other hominids. we're all still quite the same, despite these extremely minor genetic differences. human evolution has still not come to the roadblock you're conjuring up..

no need doing too much researching on sh*t thats already pretty much established, just for the sake of getting you to agree, acknowledge or accept what i'm spittin. this whole debate is in itself just like beatin a dead fuckin horse!

but check it;

"..the work on proteins and DNA indicates that most of the genetic variation in the species is present within human populations and that there is little variation among populations, including those classified as different racial groups. In keeping with the genetic definition of race, if humans are to be divided into racial groups, large-scale genetic differences should occur along s harp boundaries. If such genetic differences exist, THEY HAVE NOT YET BEEN OBSERVED... Almost all geneticists would answer no... And agree that presently, there is no genetic basis for subdividing our species into racial groups."

Human Heredity, principles and issues...

-aint no huffin and puffin about different origins, or nothin bout no different haplogroups being responsible for different races. no, we're still all related, like it or not. and that was in the chapter 18 on human diversity and evolution. that is unfortunately, my last book specifically on genetics. but i do have other textbooks that deal with the aspects of the subject itself.

so, ehhh..

[freddiefourfingers]

its not really a theory when its a proven fact... like after u eat or drink, u are going to have to use the bathroom.

-well, thats still ridiculous.. for a few reasons.

first off, like it or not, all this shit you spittin is commin from people that are well within the sphere of human evolution. i don't even know if you could find many professors or other major academic circles, that would speak on human migratory patterns in the way you do and then eschew the science of evolution in the next breath! so either way you look at it, you're still dealin with theories.

secondly, a theory is just explanation. doesn't exclude it from being fact. i think the example of electronics engineers and their illustrations on how microprocessors are created still stands as far as how 'theories' work.



just about everything we enjoy about the modern world, has some relation to theory.

cell structure,
atomic structure,
aviation,
electronics, so on and so forth..

its still a fact that planes fly thanks to acceleration and wings right??
right..

but from an engineering standpoint it's theoretical, in practice.

[sonofmongol]

genetics isnt a big stretch the haplogroup c, and o, is only found in east asian, native american and pacific islands populations, nowhere else.

oh yea, and i forgot to add the haplogroup b and d, is also only found in east asian, native american, and pacific islands populations, nowhere else.

-i think what you're trying to do, is only use half of the story while ignoring the rest..

i actually made the effort to go through a few sources of my own, and i brushed on the different haplogroups and how they are dispersed. i see what you're talking about, but i don't think you're seeing the rest of the story.

those haplogroups, DO NOT in any way shape or form, present evidence for sub-species human division. they are just haplogroups, not lines of demarcation, nor evidence of distinction!! they still ultimately are the product of the L haplotype we see being dominant in Africa. that is still the parent haplotype.

over the millenia, as populations migrated, mated, mixed up different gene frequences, so on and so on, polymorphism became a noticeable factor that's attributed to things like the haplogroups you mentioned. but they didn't create any sort of ancestry vacuum or invoke any need to assert parenthood by other hominids. we're all still quite the same, despite these extremely minor genetic differences. human evolution has still not come to the roadblock you're conjuring up..

no need doing too much researching on sh*t thats already pretty much established, just for the sake of getting you to agree, acknowledge or accept what i'm spittin. this whole debate is in itself just like beatin a dead fuckin horse!

but check it;

"..the work on proteins and DNA indicates that most of the genetic variation in the species is present within human populations and that there is little variation among populations, including those classified as different racial groups. In keeping with the genetic definition of race, if humans are to be divided into racial groups, large-scale genetic differences should occur along s harp boundaries. If such genetic differences exist, THEY HAVE NOT YET BEEN OBSERVED... Almost all geneticists would answer no... And agree that presently, there is no genetic basis for subdividing our species into racial groups."

Human Heredity, principles and issues...

-aint no huffin and puffin about different origins, or nothin bout no different haplogroups being responsible for different races. no, we're still all related, like it or not. and that was in the chapter 18 on human diversity and evolution. that is unfortunately, my last book specifically on genetics. but i do have other textbooks that deal with the aspects of the subject itself.

so, ehhh..

but one thing i dont get is, if all haplogroups came from africa, then how come none of those haplogroups exist in africa? if they are the parent and they created all these haplogroups... u mean to tell me that they couldnt create any that exist in the african populations...

not just haplogroups but mtdna is different as well... so is body structures, skull shapes, and teeth.

[sonofmongol]

its not really a theory when its a proven fact... like after u eat or drink, u are going to have to use the bathroom.

-well, thats still ridiculous.. for a few reasons.

first off, like it or not, all this shit you spittin is commin from people that are well within the sphere of human evolution. i don't even know if you could find many professors or other major academic circles, that would speak on human migratory patterns in the way you do and then eschew the science of evolution in the next breath! so either way you look at it, you're still dealin with theories.

secondly, a theory is just explanation. doesn't exclude it from being fact. i think the example of electronics engineers and their illustrations on how microprocessors are created still stands as far as how 'theories' work.



just about everything we enjoy about the modern world, has some relation to theory.

cell structure,
atomic structure,
aviation,
electronics, so on and so forth..

its still a fact that planes fly thanks to acceleration and wings right??
right..

but from an engineering standpoint it's theoretical, in practice.

a theory is a guess, a idea, a hypothesis not a fact, a lot of theories have already be debunked.

[freddiefourfingers]

from my experience, often we ask questions for which we assume no answers to exist. when in reality, the answer is only a Google search away!

the halo group u thinking about don't exist in Africa, cuz the migratory patterns are EXITING from Africa. not entering. not the other way around. so outside of africa, we see all of humanity sharing the same ancestral african root.

but as I'm sure u know by now, population genetics tend to mutate and change over long periods. and those changes find thmslves circulating among close descendants. this is all after the fact of migration.

[freddiefourfingers]

in an elementary sense,sometimes a theory is used synonymously with a guess. but that's honestly a very narrow view of the greater meaning and understanding of the word.

in common, household usage, yea a theory is a guess. however in scientific applications, a theory is considerably more complex. just off of how professional theories are formulated! basics.

again with electronics engineers.. they didn't GUESS electronics into existence

[freddiefourfingers]

nobody used applied science to GUESS jet planes into the sky.

nobody used the THEORY of gravity to guess the relationship between mass and magnetism or weight.

nobody guessed what atoms look like, before presenting pix of em in school books.

and most importantly..
nobody used guess work to present your multi-regional hypothesis. which is itself, evolution theory's lil step child!

a by product of evolution!
theory..
chew on that.

[JerseyCity201]

its not really a theory when its a proven fact... like after u eat or drink, u are going to have to use the bathroom.

-well, thats still ridiculous.. for a few reasons.

first off, like it or not, all this shit you spittin is commin from people that are well within the sphere of human evolution. i don't even know if you could find many professors or other major academic circles, that would speak on human migratory patterns in the way you do and then eschew the science of evolution in the next breath! so either way you look at it, you're still dealin with theories.

secondly, a theory is just explanation. doesn't exclude it from being fact. i think the example of electronics engineers and their illustrations on how microprocessors are created still stands as far as how 'theories' work.



just about everything we enjoy about the modern world, has some relation to theory.

cell structure,
atomic structure,
aviation,
electronics, so on and so forth..

its still a fact that planes fly thanks to acceleration and wings right??
right..

but from an engineering standpoint it's theoretical, in practice.

a theory is a guess, a idea, a hypothesis not a fact, a lot of theories have already be debunked.

HOW U GONNA STRAIGHT IGNORE MY QUESTION? WHATS DA OLDEST PRIMATE FROM ASIA U WAS TALKIN ABOUT? LINK? NAME OF IT? SUMTHIN?

[freddiefourfingers]

..a lot of theories have already be debunked.

-i forgot about that lil tidbit..

a lot of theories have been debunked, you say..?

interesting..

how many generally accepted, academically acclaimed, scientific theories have been debunked in the last ohh lets say-- 50, no 80 years!? Aight fuck it, lets go back a 100 years!

can you tell me what was debunked??
not no psuedo science or fringe science ideas, specific to one guy or a few people here and there. i mean generally accepted theories! de-freaking-bunked!! I'll wait.. very patiently.

[sonofmongol]

from my experience, often we ask questions for which we assume no answers to exist. when in reality, the answer is only a Google search away!

the halo group u thinking about don't exist in Africa, cuz the migratory patterns are EXITING from Africa. not entering. not the other way around. so outside of africa, we see all of humanity sharing the same ancestral african root.

but as I'm sure u know by now, population genetics tend to mutate and change over long periods. and those changes find thmslves circulating among close descendants. this is all after the fact of migration.

ok, so what ur telling me is that they had to migrate out of africa to create new haplogroups... so if they stayed in africa, they couldnt... i think thats rubbish... if that really did happen, im sure there would still be some evidence of all these haplogroups that they so called created existing in africa...

so if all these genetics change and mutate, how come none of the genetics in africa change or mutate...

[sonofmongol]

in an elementary sense,sometimes a theory is used synonymously with a guess. but that's honestly a very narrow view of the greater meaning and understanding of the word.

in common, household usage, yea a theory is a guess. however in scientific applications, a theory is considerably more complex. just off of how professional theories are formulated! basics.

again with electronics engineers.. they didn't GUESS electronics into existence

well if thats the case then what about all those theories about the out of africa theory being challenged by another theory saying that its false...

and what about the out of asia theory(native americans) being challenged by another theory saying that its false...

[sonofmongol]

nobody used applied science to GUESS jet planes into the sky.

nobody used the THEORY of gravity to guess the relationship between mass and magnetism or weight.

nobody guessed what atoms look like, before presenting pix of em in school books.

and most importantly..
nobody used guess work to present your multi-regional hypothesis. which is itself, evolution theory's lil step child!

a by product of evolution!
theory..
chew on that.

guess was used when the first planes was ever built by the wright brothers though.

wait wait, just before u saying everything is a theory... now ur saying that its not...

[sonofmongol]

its not really a theory when its a proven fact... like after u eat or drink, u are going to have to use the bathroom.

-well, thats still ridiculous.. for a few reasons.

first off, like it or not, all this shit you spittin is commin from people that are well within the sphere of human evolution. i don't even know if you could find many professors or other major academic circles, that would speak on human migratory patterns in the way you do and then eschew the science of evolution in the next breath! so either way you look at it, you're still dealin with theories.

secondly, a theory is just explanation. doesn't exclude it from being fact. i think the example of electronics engineers and their illustrations on how microprocessors are created still stands as far as how 'theories' work.



just about everything we enjoy about the modern world, has some relation to theory.

cell structure,
atomic structure,
aviation,
electronics, so on and so forth..

its still a fact that planes fly thanks to acceleration and wings right??
right..

but from an engineering standpoint it's theoretical, in practice.

a theory is a guess, a idea, a hypothesis not a fact, a lot of theories have already be debunked.

HOW U GONNA STRAIGHT IGNORE MY QUESTION? WHATS DA OLDEST PRIMATE FROM ASIA U WAS TALKIN ABOUT? LINK? NAME OF IT? SUMTHIN?

http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/thai ... ins-theory

[sonofmongol]

..a lot of theories have already be debunked.

-i forgot about that lil tidbit..

a lot of theories have been debunked, you say..?

interesting..

how many generally accepted, academically acclaimed, scientific theories have been debunked in the last ohh lets say-- 50, no 80 years!? Aight fuck it, lets go back a 100 years!

can you tell me what was debunked??
not no psuedo science or fringe science ideas, specific to one guy or a few people here and there. i mean generally accepted theories! de-freaking-bunked!! I'll wait.. very patiently.

http://listverse.com/2009/01/19/10-debu ... -the-past/

[freddiefourfingers]

@son of mongol

"guess was used when the first planes was ever built by the wright brothers though.

wait wait, just before u saying everything is a theory... now ur saying that its not..."

-guesses is what you pull out ya ass.. the wright brother's had reason to believe what they believed, which led to planes in the first place!

more specifically, i'm referring to the Wing Mechanics. the math behind wing design. wings are all great and everything, but the precision behind them is theoretical..

don't blame me...

-it would be beneficial to you, to actually read up on how theories are constructed. unless you're waiting for me to break out another word for word textbook explanation. which i won't do.

at the end of the day, its 2012. if you still believe a 'scientific theory' to be on equal footing as a household theory, then speakin on this any further is more horse carcass beating.

[freddiefourfingers]

@son of

"well if thats the case then what about all those theories about the out of africa theory being challenged by another theory saying that its false...

and what about the out of asia theory(native americans) being challenged by another theory saying that its false..."

-you can't make something untrue, simply by not believing it..

the good news for the rest of the world here is that, this subject is ultimately outta ya hands.
cuz you are not a part of the academic community, nor do you actively take any honest or at least decent interest in these sciences. save for the lil bit that you hand pick, to your liking.

science is always challenged by someone.. its a free world. its not religion, where ths sh*t can't be questioned. people are invited to present challenges and present their problems and concerns. its through this back and forth, this give and take, all the open dialogue, that the science grows!

something in science isn't simply wrong, because that one academic out of 1000, said he wasn't convinced....

-you wanna know more about those theories on native americans?? then go to barnes & nobles. see what you can find! talk to a sales associate and they'll point u in the right direction..

oh no.. wait..
the theory on native americans, is presented by geneticists and bioanthropologists..
since their work involves theories, why not just dead it..
dead genetics too!
dead multi-regional lineages as well..

[freddiefourfingers]

http://listverse.com/2009/01/19/10-debunked-scientific-beliefs-of-the-past/

-

something told me, you may bring that specific article up..

i wish i coulda bet yo ass money...

my man, i said name 1 MAINSTREAM, generally accepted theory. no fringe sciences.. and from within the last 100 years. remember? those were the conditions.

just give it up, dunny..

[Southside18th]

Black features are ur spongy hair, gigantic noses, all the nasty mouth and gum diseases only niggers get, the white part on the inside of ur palms, and the natural musty stench that comes with being black.

[ygSlim2]

Black features are ur spongy hair, gigantic noses, all the nasty mouth and gum diseases only niggers get, the white part on the inside of ur palms, and the natural musty stench that comes with being black.

YOU TALKING HELLA SHYT

[sonofmongol]

@son of mongol

"guess was used when the first planes was ever built by the wright brothers though.

wait wait, just before u saying everything is a theory... now ur saying that its not..."

-guesses is what you pull out ya ass.. the wright brother's had reason to believe what they believed, which led to planes in the first place!

more specifically, i'm referring to the Wing Mechanics. the math behind wing design. wings are all great and everything, but the precision behind them is theoretical..

don't blame me...

-it would be beneficial to you, to actually read up on how theories are constructed. unless you're waiting for me to break out another word for word textbook explanation. which i won't do.

at the end of the day, its 2012. if you still believe a 'scientific theory' to be on equal footing as a household theory, then speakin on this any further is more horse carcass beating.

theories is basically things u pull out ur ass, but with an idea to back up that guess.

[sonofmongol]

@son of

"well if thats the case then what about all those theories about the out of africa theory being challenged by another theory saying that its false...

and what about the out of asia theory(native americans) being challenged by another theory saying that its false..."

-you can't make something untrue, simply by not believing it..

the good news for the rest of the world here is that, this subject is ultimately outta ya hands.
cuz you are not a part of the academic community, nor do you actively take any honest or at least decent interest in these sciences. save for the lil bit that you hand pick, to your liking.

science is always challenged by someone.. its a free world. its not religion, where ths sh*t can't be questioned. people are invited to present challenges and present their problems and concerns. its through this back and forth, this give and take, all the open dialogue, that the science grows!

something in science isn't simply wrong, because that one academic out of 1000, said he wasn't convinced....

-you wanna know more about those theories on native americans?? then go to barnes & nobles. see what you can find! talk to a sales associate and they'll point u in the right direction..

oh no.. wait..
the theory on native americans, is presented by geneticists and bioanthropologists..
since their work involves theories, why not just dead it..
dead genetics too!
dead multi-regional lineages as well..

u arent part of the academic community either... and i never said i was... and i actually do take my likings in this, dont assume things about me, when u know nothing about me... nobody is handpicking things... how did u come to the conclusion that i was handpicking? once again dont assume things about me...

i already know the theories... maybe u should do some studying instead of reading from ur school text books, and thinking u know it all... when they are most likely wrong, and they leave out a lot of things...

sorry, but theories are just theories no actual hard proof, so till then its just a theory that has a lot of different theories challenging it.

and genetics isnt a theory...

[sonofmongol]

http://listverse.com/2009/01/19/10-debunked-scientific-beliefs-of-the-past/

-

something told me, you may bring that specific article up..

i wish i coulda bet yo ass money...

my man, i said name 1 MAINSTREAM, generally accepted theory. no fringe sciences.. and from within the last 100 years. remember? those were the conditions.

just give it up, dunny..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGhXuMpw ... re=related debunking out of africa theory...

why dont u give it up...

[freddiefourfingers]

@son

uhh,, I don't mean to buss ya bubble on this but posting YouTube videos that cover the same shit I already stated doesn't draw attention from the obvious. which is that you're still kinda lacking on info..

I already mentioned that "MODERN PEOPLE" mated with other hominids. it looks as if u didn't know Neanderthals are hominids! clearly, there's not much room for debate on the issue on whether or not non-humans existed besides us.

so no, u score no points for the vid, my man.

[freddiefourfingers]

actually I kind of am part of the community. lol. more on the social science side though.. that what my degree is in.

my part time shit is medical though!
ideally I'll probably end up doin research.
hopefully on cancer.

I know u handpicking, cuz I'm looking at all the shit u choose to ignore!! u serious?

either it's ignored or u just don't know any better

[sonofmongol]

@son

uhh,, I don't mean to buss ya bubble on this but posting YouTube videos that cover the same shit I already stated doesn't draw attention from the obvious. which is that you're still kinda lacking on info..

I already mentioned that "MODERN PEOPLE" mated with other hominids. it looks as if u didn't know Neanderthals are hominids! clearly, there's not much room for debate on the issue on whether or not non-humans existed besides us.

so no, u score no points for the vid, my man.

once again ur wrong, neanderthals were in europe, not all over the world... so saying modern people mated with neanderthals is incorrect... and btw nobody in africa or asia, have neanderthal dna only people in europe, so once again ur wrong...

the video debunks the out of africa theory... u obviously didnt watch it... ur losing here my man.

[sonofmongol]

actually I kind of am part of the community. lol. more on the social science side though.. that what my degree is in.

my part time shit is medical though!
ideally I'll probably end up doin research.
hopefully on cancer.

I know u handpicking, cuz I'm looking at all the shit u choose to ignore!! u serious?

either it's ignored or u just don't know any better

social science is not part of the community... it dont even have nothing to do with what we're talking about... social science is about economics and society, not genetics... nice try tho...

what do i ignore? dont put words in my mouth...

[brownbomber]

Dis video doesn't dbunks da outta africa theory..da reporter clearly states modern humans nterbred wit neanderthals...da denisovan nterbred wit da east asians...dis is old news n I already told u dis n da negrito thread....

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[freddiefourfingers]

i already know the theories... maybe u should do some studying instead of reading from ur school text books, and thinking u know it all... when they are most likely wrong, and they leave out a lot of things...

sorry, but theories are just theories no actual hard proof, so till then its just a theory that has a lot of different theories challenging it.

and genetics isnt a theory...

-i don't know it all.. i just know enought to know, you don't know what understand what a theory is..
even when you believe in one yourself!
ahem ahem.. multiple origins.



but it's cool if you still don't get it..
not surprisingly, most people don't!
planes still fly, anyway. so.. ehh.

once again ur wrong, neanderthals were in europe, not all over the world... so saying modern people mated with neanderthals is incorrect... and btw nobody in africa or asia, have neanderthal dna only people in europe, so once again ur wrong...

-here's the bad news for you..
you ready??

ok...
neanderthals... are HOMINIDS!!
....
...

they have the same genetic and anatomical roots. because they're connected to the same ancestor.
what?
whats that you say?
u said what ancestor is this??
why its only the Homo heidelbergensis! u silly boy, you..
huh? u said where is this Homo heidelbergensis from?
where do you think?
AFRICA ya big dummy!


yes man.. basically, the neanderthal's and humans both split from the same branch of hominids. one side of the Homo heidelbergensis branch went 'sapien' the other side wen't 'neanderthal.'

*though i must note, neanderthals were only one of the dozen hominid types to have existed.

-and about them mating...
didn't you just post up a youtube video, wit them talkin about modern humans and them cave men neanderthals matin???? didn't you??

i swear u gotta either be PLAYING stupid, just really to streeeeetch this discussion out..
or... u are a little on the slow side.

yes, they mated mannnnnn..
they been fuckin!!!
thats' how whites n asians was createddddd!!!!