South Central LA vs.South Chicago(Non Bias)

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Post by HoodBeenUp » March 20th, 2013, 2:14 am

South Central has 800,000 people :facepalm:

And no its not worse then Chicago. This thread has been done time and time again.

You had over 1,000 murders twice and one year was because of the riots which 50-60 extra people died.
At the time LA population was near 4 million

Chicago had 2.8 million and had 980 murders those years.

New York had 7.7 million people and had 2,000 murders.

Those 2 cities only had more murders in total numbers because of population.

Add you had 1 million more people in population, but barely many murders then Chicago.

Detriot has what 700,000 people and 400 murders....more west coast hype by the media.

Compton is not even that bad 20 murders for 90,000 people?

Englewood Chicago had 25-30 murders a year with a population of 35,000 people

Camden has 60 murders for 80,000 people.


HYPE!!!!

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Post by HoodBeenUp » March 20th, 2013, 2:15 am

Los Angeles was given the title, gang capital of the US back in 1988 by Tom Brokaw on a gang documentary. I am not sure if another person preceded Mr. Brokaw with this title, but since then it as stuck, but is that title appropriate for Los Angeles?

Los Angeles, California represents the “biggest” in nearly everything, being the largest city in the most populated State, LA is the capital for everything, including pollution, cars, traffic, guns, illegal immigration, population, etc. So saying that Los Angeles is the gang capital of the US is only true because of the actual numbers, but on a per capita examination, the City of Chicago has more murders and has consistently had more murders related to gangs since 1992, more so than Los Angeles and New York.

The lie I heard was by 790 KABC host Kevin James that Los Angeles is the “gang capital of the world” which is completely untrue. There are so many countries that are plagued with more violent gang activity throughout the world such as Jamaica, South Africa, El Salvador, and Brazil to name a few. Of course he cites absolutely no person or offers no statistics on that claim, but many of his listeners most likely believe this false statement. Although I have used the phrase, “gang capital of the country,” I say this with 100% certainty that Los Angeles is not the “gang capital of the world” and anyone who says so is either ignorant or spewing propaganda.

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Re: South Central LA vs.South Chicago(Non Bias)

Post by locside » March 20th, 2013, 3:07 am

HoodBeenUp wrote:South Central has 800,000 people :facepalm:

And no its not worse then Chicago. This thread has been done time and time again.

You had over 1,000 murders twice and one year was because of the riots which 50-60 extra people died.
At the time LA population was near 4 million

Chicago had 2.8 million and had 980 murders those years.

New York had 7.7 million people and had 2,000 murders.

Those 2 cities only had more murders in total numbers because of population.

Add you had 1 million more people in population, but barely many murders then Chicago.

Detriot has what 700,000 people and 400 murders....more west coast hype by the media.

Compton is not even that bad 20 murders for 90,000 people?

Englewood Chicago had 25-30 murders a year with a population of 35,000 people

Camden has 60 murders for 80,000 people.


HYPE!!!!
I DONT CARE ABOUT STATISTICS FROM THE 2000S FOO!!!!!!! NIGGA CRIME IN EVERY CITY IS DOWN THESE DAYS AINT NOTHIN CLOSE TO THE OLD DAYS ALL I CARE ABOUT IS THE 80S AND 90S WHEN SOUTH CENTRAL LOS ANGELES MADE CHICAGO AND EVERY OTHER CITY IN AMERICA LOOK LIKE BITCH CITY,PHUK 2013 NIGGA YALL AINT BREAKIN RECORDS RIGHT NOW YALL JUST THE HIGHEST OF THE DROP CRIME ERA.COMPTON USED TO CLOCK IN 90 HOMICIDES A YEAR IN THE 80S AND 90S AND IT WAS MURDER CAPITAL OF AMERICA OVER 10 TIMES.LOS ANGELES HAD 2,900,000 PEOPLE IN THOSE TIMES STOP DOWN PLAYIN IT,U JUST WANT CHICAGO TO BE THE HARDEST,ITS ONLY THE HARDEST IN THIS TIME WERE IN NOW AND 2013 AINT SHIT LIL NIGGA.

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Post by MurdaWoodz438 » March 20th, 2013, 4:19 am

@loside How did LA make Chicago "look" weak in the 90's? Every major city and even a few mid-size cities were all crime ridden in the 90's. While LA recorded over 1000 murders, Chicago, which is smaller in population recorded over 900 so again, how does that make Chicago look "weak"? LA is much more populated than Chicago present day and has 200 less murders and that's the reason why people see LA as soft compared to the CHI. Chicago has always been harder then LA but now its obviously much worse. When you realize that and accept it, trust me, you will sleep much better at night!

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Post by HoodBeenUp » March 20th, 2013, 5:21 am

They understand they just can't accept it. They are truly sick in the head....they want to be known as the gang capitol because some newscaster called them that. Honestly there is no "gang capitol"

But if you want to go by what city has more violence, which is something not even worth bragging about anyway. Chicago, Detriot, Philly, New Orleans, Houston, Miami all had more violent crimes then LA :shrug:

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Post by koz park » March 20th, 2013, 10:23 am

Awwww man this shit soooo stupid. Chi and l.a. are so different that there is no fair way to compare em. In some ways l.a. is more dangerous and in some waye chi is more dangerous. Niggas on this site need to sto being jealous of other cities. Chi niggas mad cuz l.a. the gang capital and l.a. niggas mad cuz chi murder rate higher. Shit stupid as fuck.

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Post by goonitary » March 20th, 2013, 10:23 am

I aint read all the post, just a few yesterday, but..

20 years ago chicago did not have more people den l.a.

Chicago was in the cut fuckin shit up, and l.a. was wild as shit. L.a. really did signify this gangbangin shit 20 years ago.

Thread starter aint got links, so he more than likely talkin out his neck.

L.a. only had about 60-70 more murders than chicago when chocago was puttin up over 900 and l.a. was puttin over 1,000.... nyc was shittin on both cities with 1,000+ murders for a couple years (meaning 1,000+ murders more than each city)

The difference now is bigger city gangs let police slow them down while chicago didnt.

20 years, you had to have permission to do a murder in chicago unless you got caught lackin and yo back was against the wall, im assumin l.a. wasnt really like that. Which is why shit seemed more hectic over there than here.

Another reason why chicago still the way it is (i dont buy into all that "we not organized no more" bullshit) is because the city is as corrupt, and fucked up than it was in al capone days. Police force aint shit but a larger Detroit police force. Governors be pocketing millions. Mayors only be worried about parking prices and red light cameras, and dont hire police(which um cool wit lol). Yall dont see a coincidence in Daley leaving after that barack obama senator seat scandal, then rahm becoming mayor, barack obamas friend? Chicago on average has more police retire than police hired. Yea we got more police per capita, but imagine if we had 50,000 police officers, like nyc, rather than our like 12,000 police? Lol. Shit a be drastically slowed down


Finally, chicago niggas. If you gone keep callin chicago GANGS mobs, then stop arguing over gang capitols..

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Re: South Central LA vs.South Chicago(Non Bias)

Post by Realife » March 20th, 2013, 10:46 am

how many times these threads gonna be made. aint no one ever agree. shits jus stupid :smh:

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Post by PmoneY » March 20th, 2013, 10:54 am

What niggaz got fucked up is that they think L.A is super bigger than chicago.....

Not too long ago and im talking 30/40 years did california pass new york as most populous state and also not too long ago did los angeles pass chicago in population........

For a fair comparison we compare South L.A with a pop of around 500"000 people compared to South chicago with a pop of 1 million people...... So overall L.A has more people but in each cities southside chicago has more people but South central put up more gang related homicidesin history,i don't think that should even be argued......

What's misleading is the total population numbers because niggaz think if the city has more people it's supposed to have more murders but the real stats are in each cities worst areas.....

New york population is not really 8 million if you break it down by each borough/brooklyn if it's own city would be the 2nd biggest in america so in reality if L.A used the same system than L.A county could count as L.A city with a pop of over 9 .8 million people.......

The difference when comparing Chicago to L.A is that chicago only gets wild on the southside while in L.A the murders are wild everywhere from South central,watts ,compton & long beach.......

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Post by PmoneY » March 20th, 2013, 11:01 am

Whoever said L.A only got 4 gangs are stupid .....

The super gangs in L.A are divided into separate sets....

Crips

Bloods

Pirus

Hoovers

F 13

18st

Ms 13

Those are 7 super gangs that each have separate sets under them and they're all spread around the country.......

Latin kings and G.D are the only chi gangs that are in different regions.....

Nobody in vegas or watts ever heard of any of those gangs unless it was internet related but crips & bloods was a force around america since the 80"s due to crack distribution.......

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Post by PmoneY » March 20th, 2013, 11:07 am

The vicelords are prolly only spread to downsouth but not east or west coast......

And to keep it 100 the gd & vl in the south are crip & blood influenced with the whole blue & red flagging that they be doing now......

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Post by HoodBeenUp » March 20th, 2013, 1:25 pm

Here comes another fake account pmoney :facepalm:
mods dead this thread. get pmoney some poms poms and a skirt

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Post by locside » March 20th, 2013, 4:31 pm

HoodBeenUp wrote:They understand they just can't accept it. They are truly sick in the head....they want to be known as the gang capitol because some newscaster called them that. Honestly there is no "gang capitol"

But if you want to go by what city has more violence, which is something not even worth bragging about anyway. Chicago, Detriot, Philly, New Orleans, Houston, Miami all had more violent crimes then LA :shrug:
Regardless the Black Parts of LA were and are way worse then any Black parts of Chicago(and LA black hoods are still Even worse the Chicago now since Blacks have lil population in LA,so the per capita black crime is way higher in Los Angeles then Chicago.)South Central LA were forever always be known as the toughest place to live for Black People.Chicago has way more Blacks then LA does Chicago got like 1.2 million blacks and Los Angeles Blacks have dwindled down to only about 500 or 600,000.So regardless of whatever u say the truth is the truth and for a young black man in South Central LA in the 80s and 90s he had a 1 in 3 chance of getting murdered.And if you cant Read the Title of the thread its SOUTH CENTRAL LA(Black Side) Vs SOUTH CHICAGO(Black Side).SOUTH CENTRAL WINS IN OVERALL GRIMEYNESS AND GANGSTA SHIT....and like I said before too I GIVES A PHUK ABOUT LA OR CHICAGO im just lettin u misguided foos know wussup.

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Post by Lawndale » March 20th, 2013, 4:38 pm

^^^^theeastoaklandboy

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Post by locside » March 20th, 2013, 4:45 pm

Lawndale wrote:^^^^theeastoaklandboy
Cuzz fuck the bay area this AZN BOYZ CRIP ON MINE

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Post by Lawndale » March 20th, 2013, 5:00 pm

locside wrote:
Lawndale wrote:^^^^theeastoaklandboy
Cuzz fuck the bay area this AZN BOYZ CRIP ON MINE
:lol: yup :lol:

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Post by locside » March 20th, 2013, 5:06 pm

Lawndale wrote:
locside wrote:
Lawndale wrote:^^^^theeastoaklandboy
Cuzz fuck the bay area this AZN BOYZ CRIP ON MINE
:lol: yup :lol:
Haha Lawndale is a SUBURB boy.

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Post by HoodBeenUp » March 20th, 2013, 5:18 pm

Black parts of la are not worse then chicagos smh....not even worse then chicago detriot philly camden st louis new orleans....smh shut up troll before you got exposed

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Post by locside » March 20th, 2013, 5:27 pm

HoodBeenUp wrote:Black parts of la are not worse then chicagos smh....not even worse then chicago detriot philly camden st louis new orleans....smh shut up troll before you got exposed
South Central damn sure was worse then all those places,u aint knowin shit u the troll im gonna call u the CHICAGO TROLL.Anytime some mentions Chicago here come hoodbeenup with his eyes all red and sweatin cuzz he know South Central LA went the hardest of all time,anything you say aint gonna change my mind or "HISTORYS MIND".Chicago was never on the same level as South Central LA 700,000 people with almost 800 murders none of those cities u mentioned are anything hardcore like South Central.Just give up already CHICAGO TROLL.And nowadays even though LA murders are down the murder rate is still SkyRocket,the difference is East LA and Harbor Area arent as rowdy as before like in the 80s and 90s.Ur such a Chicago scholar u should know that u Chicago niggas were in awe of how big bad South Central Niggas would just spray automatic weapons into crowds and crowds of people.even old chicago niggas was like oh them guy in blue they from LA LA land they some bad people.HAHA even SOUTH CENTRAL LA NIGGAS SCARED U CHICAGO NIGGAS.CHI TOWN NIGGAS EVEN ADMITTED BLOODS FROM OUT OF TOWN WERE UP IN CHICAGO BANGIN AND SO WAS THE CRIPS.SO ALL UR MISINFO IS BOOTSY.

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Post by MurdaWoodz438 » May 7th, 2017, 6:16 am

locside wrote:
HoodBeenUp wrote:Black parts of la are not worse then chicagos smh....not even worse then chicago detriot philly camden st louis new orleans....smh shut up troll before you got exposed
South Central damn sure was worse then all those places,u aint knowin shit u the troll im gonna call u the CHICAGO TROLL.Anytime some mentions Chicago here come hoodbeenup with his eyes all red and sweatin cuzz he know South Central LA went the hardest of all time,anything you say aint gonna change my mind or "HISTORYS MIND".Chicago was never on the same level as South Central LA 700,000 people with almost 800 murders none of those cities u mentioned are anything hardcore like South Central.Just give up already CHICAGO TROLL.And nowadays even though LA murders are down the murder rate is still SkyRocket,the difference is East LA and Harbor Area arent as rowdy as before like in the 80s and 90s.Ur such a Chicago scholar u should know that u Chicago niggas were in awe of how big bad South Central Niggas would just spray automatic weapons into crowds and crowds of people.even old chicago niggas was like oh them guy in blue they from LA LA land they some bad people.HAHA even SOUTH CENTRAL LA NIGGAS SCARED U CHICAGO NIGGAS.CHI TOWN NIGGAS EVEN ADMITTED BLOODS FROM OUT OF TOWN WERE UP IN CHICAGO BANGIN AND SO WAS THE CRIPS.SO ALL UR MISINFO IS BOOTSY.

http://www.streetgangs.com/topics/1991/111291lach.html
You really over-hyping South Central man. The west side of Chicago in 2016 was worse than the most dangerous areas in South Central at its peak in violence in 1993 and I got the statistics/article to prove it. Y'all just spewing random numbers with no facts to back it up.
- Los Angeles
Murders Hit Record High in South L.A. but Fall in Harbor : Crime: Officials attribute the decline to work by a police task force and to a gang cease-fire. In neighboring areas, though, 'The level of violence is unbelievable,' LAPD commander says.
December 19, 1993|ROBERT J. LOPEZ | TIMES STAFF WRITER
With two weeks left in the year, homicides are already at a record level in the Police Department bureau that covers South Los Angeles.

The one exception to the general rise in murders in the South Bureau's turf appears to be in Harbor Division, which covers Harbor City, Harbor Gateway, Wilmington and San Pedro.
As of Friday morning, the South Bureau had logged 412 homicides, surpassing last year's record 403 slayings. The 1993 toll is especially striking, police say, considering that 13 of the homicides in 1992 were directly attributed to the riots.
"The level of violence is unbelievable," said Lt. Sergio Robleto, commander of the South Bureau homicide detail. "My detectives are hard-pressed to keep up with the pace."



Not so, though, in Harbor Division. As of Dec. 13, Harbor Division had recorded 31 murders. If that figure doesn't change before the end of the year, it will mark a 26% decline from the 42 homicides in Harbor Division communities last year.

Moreover, the number of gang-related murders in the harbor area plummeted, by a record 70%.

Most striking are the apparent declines in gang-related murders in San Pedro (from six in 1992 to one so far in 1993) and in Wilmington (from 10 murders to three this year). Harbor City, which had two gang killings last year, has had one so far in 1993, and Harbor Gateway's gang murders have numbered two so far, compared with three last year.

Police attribute the dramatic decline in murders in the harbor area to work by the department's gang control unit, Community Resources Against Street Hoodlums, and an area-wide cease-fire observed by gang members since early this year.

"Frankly it's really difficult to say why crime doesn't occur," said Lt. Alan Kerstein, commanding officer of the Harbor detective division. "But I'm sure everybody deserves some credit for it. Crime goes down when officers are doing a good job and they're visible, and when a community is cooperating with the police department."

But the story was far different in other South Bureau divisions, where a record murder tally is occurring despite a decline in the citywide homicide rate. A complex set of economic, sociological and law enforcement factors have led to the bureau's rise in homicides, according to police, community activists and experts.

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If it were a city, the South Bureau would rank among the 10 deadliest in the nation. The 57-square-mile area includes four police divisions stretching from the Santa Monica Freeway to San Pedro and from Watts to Windsor Hills. Nearly 70% of its homicides have occurred in two South-Central precincts--the 77th Street and Southeast divisions.
"It's like a war zone down here. People are dying almost every day," said community activist Jaime Zeledon,
who lives in the Southeast Division, where 133 homicides had been recorded as of Friday.
"Nightly, we can hear the gunshots," said Father David Herrera of the Church of the Nativity, four of whose parishioners have been shot to death this year. They included a 15-year-old boy caught in the cross-fire of two rival gangs, and a father who confronted a man who had shot his dog.
The church, at 57th Street and Vermont Avenue, is in the 77th Division, where 155 homicides were reported as of Friday.
As of Nov. 30, the latest citywide figures available, Los Angeles had logged 982 homicides--down from 1,009 during the same span last year. There were a record 1,095 murders citywide in 1992.



Experts and community leaders say that in most of the South Bureau, poverty, unemployment and lack of recreational activities have led residents to resort to desperate acts. Some of the violence also stems from racial tensions between African American gang members and Latino immigrants in housing projects, police said.

In the Southeast and 77th divisions, the neighborhoods had a median annual income level of $15,904, compared with $33,167 for Los Angeles County, the 1990 U.S. Census found.

"As the economy goes, so goes the crime rate," said James H. Johnson, director of the UCLA Center for the Study of Urban Poverty. "I think the real issue in the South Bureau is in the area of Los Angeles that had already been economically devastated before the recent economic downturn."

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Added Helen Coleman, leader of the 71st Street-Victoria Avenue Block Club: "If you drive around here, you can see that young people have nothing to do. There's few parks and hardly any recreational activities."

Zeledon and others also blame the killings on a proliferation of high-powered weapons and a breakdown in societal values, saying that people are more willing to resolve disputes with deadly violence.

"It's gotten so that people just don't care anymore," said South-Central resident Carlita Harris as she watched detectives search for evidence Tuesday at a double slaying at 97th and San Pedro streets.

In that incident, a man and his wife were shot to death in their apartment in what police said may have been a drug-related robbery. No arrests have been made.
1993 South Central:

77th division- pop. 175,522/155 homicides

Southeast division- pop. 127,984/133 homicides

2016 Westside of Chicago:

Austin, Garfield Park, North Lawndale- pop. 138,867/184 homicides
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Re: South Central LA vs.South Chicago(Non Bias)

Post by oldschoolking » May 10th, 2017, 2:47 am

who got the worser stats? The hood gonna be the hood no matter where you go. Its shit about chi hoods that make them more dangerous than l.a. but its also shit about l.a. hoods that make em more dangerous than chi. They both dangerous but they two different stories. But what's the point of threads like this? To me it just seem like niggas tryin to start some Internet beef for no reason when in reality if some real l.a. bloods ran into some real chi gd's theyd probably just chop it up and try to figure out how to make that green together. So fuck the dumb shit talkin bout my city harder than your city. I say peace to all hoods from chi to milwaukee to l.a. to ny to baltimore to mutha fuckin miami
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Post by Swervv 48 » May 15th, 2017, 1:05 pm

Chicago wants to be LA in the 1990$
Yawl will never compete with us
Chi niggaz get killed in LA and the rest of you outatowners

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Post by MurdaWoodz438 » May 16th, 2017, 1:58 pm

Swervv 4800 wrote:Chicago wants to be LA in the 1990$
Yawl will never compete with us
Chi niggaz get killed in LA and the rest of you outatowners
Yeah right :lol:

Why y'all didn't kill a nigga when it counted? T Rodgers came out there and setup shop with no problem. Yall low key look up to Chicago.

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Post by Swervv 48 » May 16th, 2017, 5:05 pm

northpole69 wrote:UR FUCKING RETARDED .. CALI DOES NOT HAVE MORE GANGS THEN THE CHI .. EVERY FUCKING SET U GUYS HAVE IS A GANG SO HOW IS THAT FAIR . U JUST RUN SHIT DIFFERENTLY . U ONLY GOT CRIPS BLOODS SURENOS NORENOS .. AND ALL OF THOSE GANGS HAVE LIKE 100 SETS .. BUT U CALLL THEM "GANGS" BUT THEY ARE REALLLY DIFFERENT SETS
We have more sets than yawl, yawl kiss wetbak ass out there boy
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