surenos is weak?

[pomonagf13]

we all no that will never happn, mexcans been banging out here for a hundred +years u think we gunna just let you muthafuckas come and take our hoods over,never will that happen, u guys keep bragn about stains,but in about 10 ,15 years the jungles will be all mexican gangs just like the rest of la...so all u muthafuckas keep dreaming

[POOKGDOO74]

I BE GOING OUT WEST SUR13 FAR FROM WEAK OR SOFT ONLY BLACK MUTHAFUCKAS OUT EAST BE HATIN

[HoodBeenUp]

LA did not start the drive by shooting you moron....your exposing yourself more and more everyday chicago started the drive-by shooting. And Chicago started Hollywood on Lawerence and broadway....Chicago had gangs since the 1850s.....New York gangs had colors and signs before LA.....your just making things up. Bugs Moran started the first drive-by a chicago mobster....we had irish, italian, polish, african american and hispanic gangs since the 1850s....new york and boston even before us of course because they existed before us.

[HoodBeenUp]

Bugs Moran creator of the drive-by shooting...http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bugs_Moran

[HoodBeenUp]

Bugs Moran creator of the drive-by shooting
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bugs_Moran

[pomonagf13]

no bitch u exposed ur self and u still aint answer this question u fuckn clown u just be talkn out the side of ur neck,but ill show u how fake u are answer this bitch,what sureno hood did stains give hell to since ur faget ass keep sayn it. .and don't say 18 cus 18 gave it to them. ..

[pomonagf13]

straight bitch, he about to try and look some shit up on the net,....we started this gangsta shit plain and simple we was bangn b4 capone even move to chicago from ny there was no gang presence b4 that and there dam sure wasn't no black or hispanic gangs stop frontn...if I'm lying name em,shit i posted la gangs that been around since 1910 and they still active, so go chew on a dickhead u bitch

[HoodBeenUp]

you were caught in a lie hahahahahahaha.....

[Da1&Only]

I can't find no L.A. gang history dating back the 19th century. But you can for NYC. Bill the Butcher was a real dude look him up. An 1846 Mob in old New York. Gangs of New York? That wasn't no fictional story/movie made up by Scorsese (DOPE movie tho). Read the book. 5 Points NY is a real section where them old gangs warred for control of it..like the Bowery Boys, Loomis Gang, Plug Uglies to name a few.

[HoodBeenUp]

You can find gang history from New York and Chicago.....less of chicago because I believe alot of info was destoryed in the chicago fire....but there is documents saying we had gangs since the 1850s...mostly irish/italian. by the 1900s chicago had 1,300 gangs most of any city of the time and was considered the gang capital in the early 19th century. Everyone thinks this "gangster" era started with capone it started decades before that....Bugs Moran was the northside mobster who started the drive-by shooting....NY and Philadelphia had gangs since way before because new york was the hub of america and the first major city. Chicago had more one generational gangs so its hard to find anything solid on their gangs in the past.....samething with most NY gangs. LA had gangs since the 1920s but they didn't merge or change their name or retire they have lived on into present time thats is why its so easy to establish history with some of their gangs.

[KING-HOLLYWOOD]

no bitch u exposed ur self and u still aint answer this question u fuckn clown u just be talkn out the side of ur neck,but ill show u how fake u are answer this bitch,what sureno hood did stains give hell to since ur faget ass keep sayn it. .and don't say 18 cus 18 gave it to them. ..

YO COMPA..........CHILL OUT WITH THAT........HOODY IS EDUCATIN U ON SUM CHI FACTS AND U WANNA DISS HIM???..........ESE DON'T BE RUDE..........SHIT HE AINT EVEN DISSUN U..........HE'S SCHOOLIN U.........WHO KNOWS.....U CAN LEARN SUMTHING NEW FROM HOODY.......SO DON'T BE DISSIN O BOY.........DON'T DO THAT MY MAN..........JUST LISTEN...........CAUSE U MIGHT LEARN SUMTHING..........THIS CAT HAS ALOT OF KNOWLEDGE WHEN IT COMES ABOUT GANGBANGIN CHI-TOWN HISTORY.........SO DO ME THAT FAVOR COMPA..........DON'T DISS MY MAN

[pomonagf13]

fuck that bitch he ain't shit the bitch ain't educated he just a internet nerd, fuck em. and the bitch he fell out of..

[HoodBeenUp]

shut the fuck up with your weak ass propaganda your mexicans only control things in LA because of your numbers....its well known blacks are more violent then you ese.....nobody even heard of surenos or nortenos until recently everyone heard of Bs and Cs....the mexican mob is overrated to....the russian mob strikes fear into those peons and you mexicans know that. How can you guys started gangbanging with NY, Chicago, Boston, Philadelphia had gangs before you did? The drive-by shooting started in Chicago as bad as it is I hate to admit that. hell even hollywood started in Chicago.....LA is a copycat city of Chicago and NY IMO.

[backintheday]

the west coast did not invent gang bangin'... There's no argument there at all!

sur's in LA have no ho in them! ain't no mexican mobs taken' LA over.

sur's in the midwest ain't half of who they are out west. They need to pull em' back cuz they makin them look like some fools out here.

[KING-HOLLYWOOD]

fuck that bitch he ain't shit the bitch ain't educated he just a internet nerd, fuck em. and the bitch he fell out of..

C'MON COMPA U DON'T MEAN THAT...............HOODY HAS ALOT OF KNOWLEDGE WHEN IT COMES TO CHICAGO HISTORY.........ALL HE'S TRYIN TO DO IS SCHOOLIN U...........NOW WHAT U CAN DO IS SCHOOL US BACK ABOUT YOUR BELOVED CITY OF L.A..........BUT DON'T DISS..........AND JUST FOR THA RECORD COMPA...........CHI NIGGAZ DO RESPECT L.A............BUT KEEP IN MIND............WE STARTED THIS WHOLE GANGSTA SHIT..........WE CREATED IT AND WE INVENTED IT.............THA ONLY THING THAT YA'LL WESTCOAST NIGGAZ EVER INVENTED WAS GANGSTA RAP AND THAT IS.............BUT THIS WHOLE GANGSTA SHIT............THAT SHIT BELONGS TO US.........CAUSE WE MADE IT

[.:Travieso~630:.]

Well according to the FBI report the GDs are making big moves outside San Diego....

THERE U HAVE IT.............AN L.A INVASION WHICH L.A IS CLOSED TO SAN DIEGO..........AND GD'Z IS A CHI MOB SET AND SOON NOT ONLY GD'Z..........BUT WERE GONNA SEE VICELORDS,4'Z,STONES,BD'Z,SD'Z,IG'Z,BUNNIES,KINGZ,COBRAZ,COUNTZ AND OTHER SETS THAT HAILED FROM THA CHI............SOON L.A WILL BE OURS

I dought that much, Califa Gangs should have them all on lock eSe.

[justachicagokid]

shut the fuck up with your weak ass propaganda your mexicans only control things in LA because of your numbers....its well known blacks are more violent then you ese.....nobody even heard of surenos or nortenos until recently everyone heard of Bs and Cs....the mexican mob is overrated to....the russian mob strikes fear into those peons and you
mexicans know that. How can you guys started gangbanging with NY, Chicago, Boston, Philadelphia had gangs before you did? The drive-by shooting started in Chicago as bad as it is I hate to admit that. hell even hollywood started in Chicago.....LA is a copycat city of Chicago and NY IMO.

ese hahahahahahaha you said ese to da nigga hahahahahaha

[pomonagf13]

bitch u wanna see y don't u come out here and find out u bitch ,and ull c who overated u bitch i dare ur bitch ass to come to la county jail ull c what's up who run the west u faget bitch u don't even gangbang u just a internet reserch dick ryder,what hood u claim,what set u from bitch, i thought so go reserch gangs u bitch every thing i no i lived it, blax get smashed in cali plain and simple.u just like the rest of them bitchies making excuses, so what we hella deep,what u think bitch his used to be mexico,soon real sureno will take over the chi,and u talkn bout the russians i ain't even gonna put u up on gang cus that's what u what all ima just say the armenian made the connection ..u faget haven't u ever herd of armenian power 13,go look it up since that's were u get all ur info and u will c how 13,arminiens,russians,mexican cartels all work ass one u bitch...and blax only make noise in sc,cpt,lbc,ing.that's it so stop fronting bitch u don't no shit about cali the gang capital of the world gangbangin since 1910,gangs that are still active to day ,can u chitown clowns say the same....i thought so

[justachicagokid]

bitch u wanna see y don't u come out here and find out u bitch ,and ull c who overated u bitch i dare ur bitch ass to come to la county jail ull c what's up who run the west u faget bitch u don't even gangbang u just a internet reserch dick ryder,what hood u claim,what set u from bitch, i thought so go reserch gangs u bitch every thing i no i lived it, blax get smashed in cali plain and simple.u just like the rest of them bitchies making excuses, so what we hella deep,what u think bitch his used to be mexico,soon real sureno will take over the chi,and u talkn bout the russians i ain't even gonna put u up on gang cus that's what u what all ima just say the armenian made the connection ..u faget haven't u ever herd of armenian power 13,go look it up since that's were u get all ur info and u will c how 13,arminiens,russians,mexican cartels all work ass one u bitch...and blax only make noise in sc,cpt,lbc,ing.that's it so stop fronting bitch u don't no shit about cali the gang capital of the world gangbangin since 1910,gangs that are still active to day ,can u chitown clowns say the same....i thought so

hoodbeen is right i got cousins whos bounty hunters out there you muhfuckas aint got no blacks shook.

[KING-HOLLYWOOD]

bitch u wanna see y don't u come out here and find out u bitch ,and ull c who overated u bitch i dare ur bitch ass to come to la county jail ull c what's up who run the west u faget bitch u don't even gangbang u just a internet reserch dick ryder,what hood u claim,what set u from bitch, i thought so go reserch gangs u bitch every thing i no i lived it, blax get smashed in cali plain and simple.u just like the rest of them bitchies making excuses, so what we hella deep,what u think bitch his used to be mexico,soon real sureno will take over the chi,and u talkn bout the russians i ain't even gonna put u up on gang cus that's what u what all ima just say the armenian made the connection ..u faget haven't u ever herd of armenian power 13,go look it up since that's were u get all ur info and u will c how 13,arminiens,russians,mexican cartels all work ass one u bitch...and blax only make noise in sc,cpt,lbc,ing.that's it so stop fronting bitch u don't no shit about cali the gang capital of the world gangbangin since 1910,gangs that are still active to day ,can u chitown clowns say the same....i thought so

COMPA............CHILL OUT WITH THAT SHIT...........HOODY AINT DISSIN U............HE'S EDUCATIN U AND U GET MAD CAUSE MY NIGGA IS TRYIN TO SCHOOL U???C'MON COMPA..........WHAT'S WRONG WITH U???AND MY MAN MUCH RESPECT TO YOUR SET...........BUT YA'LL CAN'T NEVER AND HEAR THIS GOOD..........NEVER TAKE OVA THA CHI........I FOR ONE HEAR ALOT OF STORIES YA'LL FLIPPIN TO COBRAZ AND HOE/A'Z AND BUNNIES AND AS OF MATTER OF FACT..........YA'LL WERE BROUGHT BY THEM BUNNIES...........BUT YA'LL CAN'T NEVER DO THAT...........YA'LL CAN'T NEVER TAKE OVA THA CHI............WHY DO U THINK THA CHI IS THA ONLY CITY IN THA U.S OR PERHAPS THA WORLD THAT DON'T HAVE NO CRABZ OR LOBSTERS.............WHY???CAUSE THEY KNOW BETTER AND THEY KNOW BETTER NOT TO COME TO THA CHI...........OR ELSE THEY WILL GET PULVARISED BY EVERY CHI MOB SET AND COMPA..........THA CHI IS THA ORIGINAL GANG CAPITAL OF THA WORLD AND STILL IS AND U WANNA KNOW WHY???CAUSE WE CREATED............WE INVENTED IT

[pomonagf13]

please homie that bitch ain't schoolng me i don't take in shit that bitch says. cus its all bull shit,he sayn gbangn started in ny u sayn it started in the chi, but we all no it started in la, the gang capital of the world always have been and always will be trust me the chi will never invaded shit out here mexicans will make sure of that if the bz and cz dnt..

[KING-HOLLYWOOD]

please homie that bitch ain't schoolng me i don't take in shit that bitch says. cus its all bull shit,he sayn gbangn started in ny u sayn it started in the chi, but we all no it started in la, the gang capital of the world always have been and always will be trust me the chi will never invaded shit out here mexicans will make sure of that if the bz and cz dnt..

COMPA WE GOT MAD MEXICANS HERE TOO AND U KNOW I AINT MEXICAN.........BUT I WAS RAISED BY THEM...........SO MY HEART IS MEXICAN...........BUT U NEED TO UNDERSTAND............HOODY IS A COOL ASS NIGGA.........SO WHY DISS MY MAN........IF HE'S ONLY SCHOOLIN U ABOUT TRUE GANG HISTORY.........MY MAN HE KNOWS HE'S SHIT AND TRUST ME COMPA.........IF WE EVER INVADE L.A............CALI WILL BE OURS JUST LIKE THAT...........KEEP IN MIND WE HAVE 2 OF THA STRONGEST ALLIANCES IN THA WORLD........PEOPLE AND FOLKS AND THA CHI IS THA GANGBANGIN CAPITAL OF THA WORLD...........CAUSE WE FORMED IT...........WE CREATED AND WE INVENTED..........THA CHI IS AND WILL ALWAYS BE THA ORIGINAL CAPITAL OF THA WORLD..............CAUSE WE MADE IT AND INVENTED IT

[HoodBeenUp]

LA will not be the gang capital of the word you fake ass cheerleader....you believing your own lies...LA was NEVER murder capital of the world EVER! Chicago and New York were. And LA has 1 million people more then Chi and we still have more murders then you guys have had. And we have more gang members per capita and had gangs since the 1850s....Chicago started the drive-by Shooting and Hollywood....I know the Russians work with the Mexicans you idiot...but the russians are deeper into the game...they got heads in the goverment!!!! How can you brag about gangs when NY and Chi and Boston and Phildelphia had gangs before LA!!! You guys got caught in media hype!!! I ain't feel like a lame bragging about murders im going to stop with this dude he doesn't want the truth he wants to live in fairyland....

[pomonagf13]

u the one livin in a fairytale, and don't want to excet that we the gang capital u keep reaptn the same shit but it don't mean shit ..and about the russians they on a ho other tip, we got the streets,county jails and prisons in cali,but i don't no y u even brought them up u ain't even on that level ,u don't even bang so shut that shit up every time u get caught in a lie u just go back to how much more dangerous chicago is u fuckn fraud,and to that other dude y would bhw be shook of mexicans they in projects that's all black, and they don't come out them shits but best belive in jail they no they place they don't want it...

[pomonagf13]

first this bitch say the russians strike fear into the mexicans hearts then he said i no the russians fuck with mexicans, bitch stop watching training day in cali the russian ain't killn shit they making hella money

[HoodBeenUp]

They do strike fear because they are a real mob....not some mob like the mexican mafia in LA....the cartels in mexico are the real mobsters. And who cares if russians do business with you does that mean they like mexicans? you wouldnt no anything about leadership or business since the LA EME taxes you rat bastards...you're the foster children of LA EME.... LA EME has a working relationship with the Ayran Brotherhood does that mean them dudes don't dislike mexicans? you stupid hippie business is business ESE

[pomonagf13]

youz a stupid mutha now u just sayn shit cuz u mad, bitch go take it out on ur keyboard that all ur gunna do u don't bang u ain't in the street all u do is look up gang all day and cheer for them on the internet ,so who the real cheerleader, I've already exposed ur bitch ass,this is tha last time I'm gunna say this cus u don't no what the fuck ur talkn about,the russians ain't seen, u don't hear about them or c them there behind the sencez u fuckn idiot, and if they don't like us y the fuck is armenian faction of the russian mob add the 13 at the end of there name u stupid bitch,and u talk about cartels well guess what u faget,surenos that fled to mexico from the law are the ones doing all the dirt..
i think u just mad cuz the peoples or folk don't get no love out there,them bitchies can't get connected,and maybe they the onez thatz scared cuz they just claim to b mobs but ain't shit but street gangs ...u faget don't even have a real black mob or mafia ,,,,nigga

[pomonagf13]

u just a bitch who claims to b in chicago talking shit ,have u ever met any mexican mafia member,no so how would u no what strikes fear in the heart u don't u just a shit talker,,if u ever even met a real m mafia member i gaurentee ur bitch ass would be on straight hush mode,eme members are the coldest most violent hispanics in california and i dout u, a internet nerd should even be talkn about fear ,u bitch nigle

[HoodBeenUp]

LOL at LA EME....they don't hold a candle to the cartels in mexico......bwahahahahahahahaha serve your servants

[HoodBeenUp]

Internet nerd come on man....what are you? Are you who you say you are? How do we know you're not some cheerleader....you sound like a little kid...."surenos taking over black hoods...soon chicago" You lames ain't taking over nothing.....you guys have numbers and still less violent then most black gangs thats the point I was making. And you tried lying saying LA started the drive-by shooting, when it was chicago....but you complain because I posted it from the internet its internet information. Who tells you your information? claming gangs were around since 1910....you got most of your info from the internet...FBI reports are reliable...listening to fake hyperactive posters like you are not. If its not pro hispanic gangs you throw a fit...if you a real sureno 13 thug post some pictures of yourself...come on faggot its the midwest forum...grab them dickies your eyeliner and some winter gloves and lets see. lets see your hood. you can call me a nerd all you want i bet if i ever met you i knock your soft ass out...probably fight like one of the hos from the bad girls club ese

[justachicagokid]

Internet nerd come on man....what are you? Are you who you say you are? How do we know you're not some cheerleader....you sound like a little kid...."surenos taking over black hoods...soon chicago" You lames ain't taking over nothing.....you guys have numbers and still less violent then most black gangs thats the point I was making. And you tried lying saying LA started the drive-by shooting, when it was chicago....but you complain because I posted it from the internet its internet information. Who tells you your information? claming gangs were around since 1910....you got most of your info from the internet...FBI reports are reliable...listening to fake hyperactive posters like you are not. If its not pro hispanic gangs you throw a fit...if you a real sureno 13 thug post some pictures of yourself...come on faggot its the midwest forum...grab them dickies your eyeliner and some winter gloves and lets see. lets see your hood. you can call me a nerd all you want i bet if i ever met you i knock your soft ass out...probably fight like one of the hos from the bad girls club ese

hahahaha u said ese again ahahahahahaha real talk i was thinkin about earlier askin you to say ese again to him hahahahaha now do me a favor man say vato whatever he say to you next u gotta include the word vato or holmes

[pomonagf13]

bitch shut that shit up already u sound like a bitch that's been bleeding for the past three days this faget want me to post flicks, wtf i gotta lie for i no what i am and everything i no is from the streets or the pen not the net like ur faget ass,and about being violent the black ain't got rules they do drive bys shoot at u when ur with ur kids /moms shoot up houses and all that dumb shit surenos don't do all that...if they so violent then y more mexican gangs be killing blacks gang then blax killing surenos. on the streets and behind the wall u bitch...and u talk tuff but u no u ain't gunna do a dam thing Niglet scarry ass muthafucka ain't never been threw shit no riot gunplay no shit cus u a online cheerleder for chicago gangs. ...what gang u from bitch just name one make one up if u got to u bitch fuck ur life ill put hands on ur bitch ass i garentee it bitch

[HoodBeenUp]

You stupid peon.....nobody has to prove nothing and I have been locked up more times then you for multiple felonies what does that have to do with being real? You stupid kid you got it all backwords....lots of gang black or spanish use to and currently shoot when people with their family or kids....happens alot in the chi and its fucked up. Mexicans gangs do they same thing. I just think your a phony and you need to change your ass tampon...if you so hood why don't you come to the chi and find me ill give you my address. You're just a peon cheerleader for mexican gangs and your probably not even in a set....go out get some sun and chase some tale instead of checking your friends iphone to see if i replied to all your lies.....ESE

[pomonagf13]

oh yes let me board a plane right now for i can go all the way to chicago to meet a cheerlearder that gave me the wronge address. u a bitch lain and simple and this will be my last reply cus arguing with a bitch ain't the bizniz so fuck u and what u stand for. ..signing off from the gangbang capital of the world u already no la county aka gangbang central.....ps if so hard y don't u come talk that shit over here ill be more then happy to greet u at the airport,NIGGA

[HoodBeenUp]

Let me ask you a question....how are you guys the gangbang capital? We have more gang members per capita then LA.....I hate to mention this....we always had more homicides....we were murder capital at one point....LA never was....we started drive-by shooting which everyone know across the nation and possibly the world uses. We had gangs since 1850s....but you think your the gangbang capital because hollywood made some movies out Bs and Cs....and Cali gang politics....LMAOOOO. You do know hollywood started in Chicago right? Stop letting the media brainwash you...thats like people believin jennifer lopez is the most beautiful women in the world....i can go down to the PR parade next month and find 1,000 bitches that will shit on her. If Hollywood stayed in Chicago we would be on the focus more and imitated the most. The media is a hype machine people still think LKs started in NY.......how can your city be more gangster if chicago has more violent crimes.....? How can you even answer that logically....and you guys have 1 million more in population and thats not couting then undisclosed amounts of illegals in LA.....Houston Texas has a higher crime rate then LA....so does Detriot......

[HoodBeenUp]

And you guys didnt start colors....that was started in Europe when their gangs started during the revolutinary war...and after words.....secret societies had handshakes and signs they use and even the early irish and italian gangs because at one point they were considered miniorties don't forget that. They lived in the slums and were treated bad by the british who colonize america....they were looked upon as "niggers"

[.:Travieso~630:.]

I BE GOING OUT WEST SUR13 FAR FROM WEAK OR SOFT ONLY BLACK MUTHAFUCKAS OUT EAST BE HATIN

True That Vato...

[3l3m3ntal]

if they don't like us y the fuck is armenian faction of the russian mob add the 13 at the end of there name u stupid bitch,

It's a Armenian hood not related to the Russian mob, the Russian mob is transinternational organized crime. Transinternational organized crime all ties in together, not one of them holds monopoly over the whole world. Yes, some are stronger than others I suppose but for the most part they are cooperative with one another, other times at war with one another.

There's the Albanian mob, the Algerian mob, Corsican mob, Serbian mob, Bulgarian mob, Chechen mob, Estonian mob, Macedonian mob, Montenegrin mob, Russian mob, Japanese Yakuza, Chinese Triads and Tongs, Mexican cartels, in Italy alone there are 7 native COs Basilischi, Camorra, Cosa Nostra, La Stidda, Ndrangheta, Sacra Corona Unita, and finally the Mala Del Brenta. Well you get the point.

[3l3m3ntal]

Oops, the Armenian Power does have mob ties. My bad.

[3l3m3ntal]

http://losangeles.fbi.gov/dojpressrel/p ... 021611.htm

Department of Justice Press Release
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For Immediate Release
February 16, 2011
United States Attorney's Office
Central District of California
Contact: (213) 894-2434

Armenian Power Organized Crime Group Targeted in Federal Indictments That Allege Racketeering Offenses, Including Bank Fraud Schemes, Kidnappings, and Drug Trafficking
Seventy Accused in RICO Indictment that Outlines Criminal Conduct Across Southern California; Investigation Conducted by Eurasian Organized Crime Task Force

LOS ANGELES—As a result of two federal indictments and state cases that charge a total of 99 defendants with a wide range of crimes—including kidnapping, extortion, bank fraud, and narcotics trafficking—law enforcement authorities this morning arrested 74 members and associates of the Armenian Power organized crime group.

The majority of the defendants arrested this morning are named in two federal indictments that charge a total of 88 defendants linked to Armenian Power, which is commonly called AP.

One indictment accuses 29 defendants with participating in a RICO conspiracy in violation of the federal Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations (RICO) Act. The RICO charge alleges a host of illegal activities, some of which are sophisticated white-collar crimes such as identity theft, credit card skimming, and manufacturing counterfeit checks. Among the conspiracies charged in the racketeering indictment is a bank fraud and counterfeit credit card scheme that victimized hundreds of customers of 99 Cents Only Stores throughout Southern California. AP members allegedly caused more than $2 million in losses when they secretly installed sophisticated "skimming" devices to steal customer account information at cash registers and then used the skimmed information to create counterfeit debit and credit cards.

The 134-count racketeering indictment returned three weeks ago by a federal grand jury in Los Angeles charges a total of 70 defendants. In addition to the RICO count that includes nearly 450 overt acts, the indictment includes charges against AP members for kidnapping, extortion, bank fraud, aggravated identity theft, credit card fraud, marijuana distribution, and conducting an illegal gambling business.

"The indictments that target the Armenian Power organized crime enterprise provide a window into a group that appears willing to do anything and everything illegal to make a profit," said United States Attorney André Birotte Jr. "These types of criminal organizations—through the use of extortions, kidnappings, and other violent acts—have a demonstrated a willingness to prey upon members of their own community. As we have seen in Los Angeles and elsewhere, these groups also engaged in various fraud schemes that clearly have had a significant impact on financial institutions and their customers who have lost millions of dollars and lost their sense of security through identity theft and credit card fraud."

Steven Martinez, Assistant Director in Charge of the FBI in Los Angeles, stated: "Investigators from nine agencies leveraged their collective expertise to identify the threat posed by members of Armenian Power, a criminal enterprise with over 200 members, bent on generating illicit revenue to expand its power base. While some organized crime groups have been largely suppressed, others, including AP, have managed to grow from a street gang into an international organized crime group, carrying out criminal activity that runs the gamut from bank fraud schemes to extortion to kidnapping, and capable of making every citizen of the community a potential victim."

The second federal indictment was returned by a federal grand jury in Orange County and charges 20 defendants, two of whom are also charged in the racketeering indictment. Similar to the some of the schemes alleged in the racketeering indictment, the Orange County case alleges that AP members engaged in a bank fraud scheme that targeted elderly victims. Investigators found that members of the Armenian Power organization were working in conjunction with members of African-American street gangs and bribed bank insiders to gather information that allowed them to take over bank accounts and cause losses of at least $10 million.

In addition to the federal indictments, the Los Angeles County District Attorney has charged 11 defendants in seven cases filed in superior court, which means that a total of 99 members and associates of Armenian Power have been charged.

In separate actions brought by federal authorities in Miami and Denver, and announced along with the Los Angeles indictments by the Department of Justice, more than a dozen additional defendants, some of whom are linked to Armenian Power, were charged with extortion and fraud offenses.

"Members of the organized crime groups charged today have allegedly committed literally hundreds of criminal acts—running the gamut of extortion, kidnapping, bank fraud, health care fraud, drug trafficking, and more. The common denominator among these defendants and their criminal enterprises is their willingness to commit any crime for profit, and to use any means of violence and intimidation to further their goals," said Assistant Attorney General Breuer of the Justice Department's Criminal Division. "In less than one month, however, the department has undertaken the largest one-day takedown of La Cosa Nostra; a coordinated national effort against street gangs; and today, taken action against Armenian Power and others with ties to international organized crime. These groups bring fear into our communities, defraud innocent victims, and put the safety and security of neighborhoods and our country at risk. We are taking an aggressive stand against these organized criminal groups and will continue our efforts to put them out of business."

The Los Angeles investigation into Armenian Power—dubbed Operation Power Outage—was conducted by the Eurasian Organized Crime Task Force, which is made up of the Federal Bureau of Investigation, the United States Secret Service, U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement, the Office of Inspector General for the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, IRS - Criminal Investigation, the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department, the Los Angeles Police Department, the Glendale Police Department, and the Burbank Police Department. The Orange County bank fraud indictment is the result of an investigation by the United States Secret Service and the Eurasian Organized Crime Task Force.

"This investigation has been a collective effort of our Orange County Resident Office and the Los Angeles Field Office for over the past five years," said Wayne Williams, Special Agent in Charge of the United States Secret Service. "As with everything we do, our success is only achieved with the continued support of our local and federal counterparts. Operation Power Outage demonstrates that collaborative efforts between local and federal law enforcement is alive and well in the Los Angeles Metropolitan area."

Operation Power Outage focused on Armenian Power, a criminal enterprise whose membership consists primarily of individuals whose heritage goes back to Armenia and other Eastern Bloc countries. AP is an international organized crime group that started as a street gang in East Hollywood in the 1980s. While members often identify themselves with tattoos, graffiti and gang clothing, the organization is less concerned with controlling "turf" than traditional street gangs and has long maintained a presence in several communities in the Hollywood area and the San Fernando Valley.

"We enjoy a strong relationship with federal law enforcement agencies and the U.S. Attorney's office," said Chief Ron De Pompa of the Glendale Police Department. "Operation Power Outage is sending a strong message to the criminal element victimizing the citizens of our communities. The cooperation and the marshalling of resources with our allied agencies enable us to dismantle these organizations."

The federal indictments allege a wide variety of different violent and fraud-related crimes—offenses that were allegedly conducted repeatedly and routinely. The alleged crimes include kidnapping, extortion, assault, witness intimidation, and drug distribution. In one kidnapping scheme, several AP members seized a victim and forced him to pay ransom by taking him to an auto body shop belonging to an AP member and threatening him with violence. Several defendants allegedly targeted another victim in an extortion scheme lasting several months, in which they threatened the victim and his family in order to extract repeated payments from the victim. The indictment alleges that the defendants repeatedly possessed and distributed marijuana and firearms.

"It is with a great deal of satisfaction that Operation Power Outage has successfully concluded," said Burbank Police Chief Scott LaChasse. "The Burbank Police Department's primary objective has been to work in collaboration with allied law enforcement agencies to ensure that our community is safe and secure. The teamwork involved in Operation Power Outage underscores the commitment and professionalism of all involved personnel and agencies."

The financial fraud crimes committed on behalf of Armenian Power were highly sophisticated, targeting hundreds of victims and resulting in millions of dollars of actual and intended losses to banks and individual victims. In addition to the scheme involving the 99 Cents Only Stores, AP members allegedly engaged in a large-scale check fraud scheme in which they unlawfully obtained customer information for high-value bank accounts, impersonated the bank customers to acquire checks, and then cashed and deposited checks in an effort to deplete the accounts. At times, members of the conspiracy allegedly went to victims' residences to steal blank checks that had been mailed to them.

"We are concerned with the increased level of fraud committed by these organized groups," said Glenn Ferry, Special Agent in Charge for the Office of Inspector General of the Department of Health & Human Services. "The charges levied here today are similar to the identity theft schemes we are seeing in health care fraud investigations, that allow criminals to steal millions from the Medicare and Medi-Cal programs. We intend to aggressively pursue those who are committing these acts."

"Today's takedown of the Armenian Power street gang is indicative of law enforcement's resolve to investigate and prosecute those criminals who use violence and intimidation in promoting and protecting their criminal enterprises," said IRS-Criminal Investigation acting Special Agent in Charge Joel P. Garland. "IRS-Criminal Investigation plays a unique role in federal law enforcement's resolve to dismantle the criminal gang enterprises terrorizing our streets. Our agents target the profit and financial gains of organized criminal gangs, essentially following the money, to disrupt these organizations and enhance criminal prosecutions."

The investigation revealed that some Armenian Power members continued to be involved in various schemes even after they were convicted in state court and incarcerated. Two of the defendants are accused of using smuggled mobile phones to coordinate bank fraud schemes while in state prison, and one of those defendants allegedly helped organize a scheme to threaten and extort another person while he was in prison.

According to the racketeering indictment, Armenian Power, which is also known as AP-13, is closely allied with the Mexican Mafia, a prison gang that controls much of the narcotics distribution and other criminal activities within California correctional facilities. In addition to its connections to criminal groups operating in California, such as the Mexican Mafia, AP leadership maintains ties to Armenia and Russia and deals directly high-level Armenian/Russian organized crime figures. Among those high-level crime figures are traditional "Thieves-in-Law," who are used to resolve disputes and address criminal activity. Because of its large network of members and associates, its demonstrated ability to carry out acts of violence, and its strong relationship with the Mexican Mafia, Armenian Power leaders interact with traditional Thieves-in-Laws as equals. At times, AP members and associates confront and commit acts of violence against associates of traditional Thieves-in-Law in a demonstration of the authority of AP leadership.

"This successful multi-agency investigation concentrated on a racketeering criminal organization comprised of high-level Russian/Armenian crime figures responsible for violent acts on innocent victims and numerous fraudulent activities," stated Los Angeles County Sheriff Lee Baca. "The criminal activities of these enterprises threaten our communities; economy and undermine the positive efforts of law enforcement."

An indictment contains allegations that a defendant has committed a crime. Every defendant is presumed to be innocent until and unless proven guilty in court.

If convicted, the defendants indicted as a result of Operation Power Outage face varying prison sentences, depending on the charges. For example, the defendants named in the RICO count faces up to 20 years in federal prison for that offense, and those charged in the marijuana-related offenses face mandatory minimum sentences of 10 years for the narcotics offenses.

The Eurasian Organized Crime Task Force Task Force worked with several other law enforcement agencies that provided substantial assistance during this morning's takedown, including the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives; the Drug Enforcement Administration; the Los Angeles County District Attorney's Office, Bureau of Investigation; the United States Marshals Service; and investigators with the California Department of Motor Vehicles.

[KING-HOLLYWOOD]

AND STILL ALKN................AND SOON L.A WILL BE OURS

[King Dreamer]

bitch u wanna see y don't u come out here and find out u bitch ,and ull c who overated u bitch i dare ur bitch ass to come to la county jail ull c what's up who run the west u faget bitch u don't even gangbang u just a internet reserch dick ryder,what hood u claim,what set u from bitch, i thought so go reserch gangs u bitch every thing i no i lived it, blax get smashed in cali plain and simple.u just like the rest of them bitchies making excuses, so what we hella deep,what u think bitch his used to be mexico,soon real sureno will take over the chi,and u talkn bout the russians i ain't even gonna put u up on gang cus that's what u what all ima just say the armenian made the connection ..u faget haven't u ever herd of armenian power 13,go look it up since that's were u get all ur info and u will c how 13,arminiens,russians,mexican cartels all work ass one u bitch...and blax only make noise in sc,cpt,lbc,ing.that's it so stop fronting bitch u don't no shit about cali the gang capital of the world gangbangin since 1910,gangs that are still active to day ,can u chitown clowns say the same....i thought so

jo you up here braggin bout the wedo like he did something?si guey "the armenian" told on u nigkas. fuck the armenian. and fuck a sureno king motherfuckin love!

[Lions360Roar]

I BE GOING OUT WEST SUR13 FAR FROM WEAK OR SOFT ONLY BLACK MUTHAFUCKAS OUT EAST BE HATIN

i love when a nigga from one organization speaks so good about another one. like a bunch of dick riders.

[pomonagf13]

to that faget queen dreamer there's snichies evetywere u stupid muthafucka, the muthafucka closest to u are snithing nowdays, u can prevent a snith u bitch fuck alkn, bnch of propaganda anyways, u muthafuckas is a plain old streetgang face it u faget, and u,d be a dead faget if u was overhere in cali sayn fuck sur13 ..so keep dissin on the net at ur house safe and sound i ain't even trippn, cus everybody on this muthafucka no u ain't coming to cali with that...

[scarecrow_666]

im glad i joined dis site cuz it given me an insight into latino mob politics i aint had before. but i see alot of dudes on here sayin surenos is pussy. is dat really true , are dey for real pussy , or is niggas just sayin dat on a disrespectin tip?

i keep hearin dey pussy but i seen a bunch of em in da county so i figure dey must be puttin in some kinda work. but someone hit me up.

Idk bkoxt anywhere else bkut xut here they stucc up and neva fight xnes

[Angelo Krazy]

keep scraps out of our city 4CHN

[pomonagf13]

u do that and we,ll keep the hor corner busters outta our city

[KING-HOLLYWOOD]

to that faget queen dreamer there's snichies evetywere u stupid muthafucka, the muthafucka closest to u are snithing nowdays, u can prevent a snith u bitch fuck alkn, bnch of propaganda anyways, u muthafuckas is a plain old streetgang face it u faget, and u,d be a dead faget if u was overhere in cali sayn fuck sur13 ..so keep dissin on the net at ur house safe and sound i ain't even trippn, cus everybody on this muthafucka no u ain't coming to cali with that...

AYO COMPA..........DO ME A FAVOR.........DON'T BE DISSIN MY CROWN BROTHA.......KING DREAM.........SO CHILL OUT WITH THAT........IF ANYTHING HE'S TELLIN U LIKE IT IS..........SO LEARN TO ACCEPT THA FACTS...........IS STILL ALKN AND ANOTHA THING BE CAREFUL ON WHAT U SAY ABOUT US............DO NOT LER ME HEAR U SAY FUCK U KNOW WHOM.........CAUSE FOR ONE COMPA...........WE ARE YOUR KINGZ..........WE ARE THA MOST DEEPEST AND MOST POWERFUL LATINO OR MEXICAN ORGANIZATION ON THA PLANET............SO COMPA CHILL OUT WITH THAT.........CAUSE U BEEN WARNED.........U KNOW I AINT GOT NUTTHIN AGAINST U AND FOR THA SIMPLE FACT THAT YOUR MEXICAN AND THEREFORE I CAN'T DISS U...........BUT U NEED TO LEARN NOT TO DISS OTHERS.........CAUSE IF U START DISSIN MY FELLOW KING BROTHA KING DREAMER OR KING LION360ROAR OR ANY OF MY CROWN BROTHAZ...........THEN COMPA YOUR GONNA HAVE TO DEAL WITH ME...........I RESPECT U AND HOPE U NOTICE THAT I DON'T DISS NO MEXICANZ..........CAUSE U KNOW THOSE ARE MY PEEPS...........EVEN THOUGH I AINT ONE OR NOT FROM NO MEXICAN DESCENTRY............BUT I WILL LET U HAVE IT COMPA...........SO U BEEN WARNED.............CAUSE IS STILL ALKN

[Lions360Roar]

Oops, the Armenian Power does have mob ties. My bad.

nigga theres pretty much a mob for every nationality out there now.

[pomonagf13]

fuck that bitch queen dreamer he sound like a bitch anyways and if dissing my one three I'm at ur neck bitch, and wood wtf is u smokn please pass the shit, u must be on a good one if u think lk is the most powerful organiztion,lol u muthafuckas is weird ass fuck on the the hood u bitchies wouldn't b talkn sideways if we was face to face.but fuck it i can't let the net get to me, and one last thing fuck a latin or a latino fuck all that shit, ima muthafuckn mexican bitchies