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Re: AMERICAS OLDEST GANG

Post by YLG547 » April 17th, 2012, 10:15 am

DOGTOWN PROJECTS GET PASSED WHEN U ON DA METROLINK FROM 818 TO UNION/LA.

THEN U GOT DOGTOWN IN NORTHEAST LA IN DA AVENUES ON 53RD.

NONE OF THIS THA SAME AS THAT SKATEBOARD SHIT.

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Re: AMERICAS OLDEST GANG

Post by mayugastank » April 17th, 2012, 4:40 pm

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mayugastank wrote:There are Americas oldest gang.Period. There is not a gang thats active today with a quarter of the history of this gang. MOST of what constitutes American banging started with this group.

Los Angelos Oldest gang by FAR, the only other gang that come close are 30 years YOUNGER.

They are Americas oldest longest living gang. There are no gangs in New york that have lasted as long, the vast majority have died off or were adapted into Italian Mafia families.

Everything tahts street today started witrh this group
there is no evidence that they are the oldest gang in america...the genovese family was founded around 1890 too so i guess there are a few active italian gangs that are even older...topic closed

they adopted the italian suit style thats all...the khakis and bandanas came waaaay later so ho you gonna say they started all this ?

you can say that they helped bringing italian mob style into los angeles nothing more nothing less...nobody knows who wuz tha first gang who ever wore bandanas or khakis

The Italians have a longer history of banging then all ethnicitys. The Gambinos-Genovese-Colombos can all trace their roots to street gangs and then onto mafias.

What I am saying is that THIS GANG <DOGTOWN 13> is Americas oldest longest living gang. They didnt chnge names-or streets. They are where they are TODAY, as they were in 1890. Their arent any other gangs NATIONWIDE even close to an unbroken history like this gang. If youve ever met any of these guys most have great grandparents who continued the gang and handed down storys-symbols to their children.

To say that they didnt originate MOST of what is done today as banging is just wrong. New York-has no history of writing like us-dressing like us and using the form of grey scale tattoo work along with the bandana banging gang signs throwing that are ALL INCORPORATED to make up what people consider gang life TODAY.

If you look at their gang graffiti going back to the 1940s.....which I posted above youll see the exact same method of street art today. This gang was one of several tomatoe gangs that William Dunne listed as having evolved. The other few are all extinct.

Alot of people say zootsuits created modern gang culture, but zootsuits were a form of dress used in the 1950s!.......this gang had been around over 60 years by then. In the 1960s, chicano activism, bitten of the black panthers....merged into alot of Mexican gangs.

To not give credit where its due is just misinformation. This gang can directly be traced to have influenced ---skate board culture----crips and bloods----Americas style of dress and fashion----street art, and music.

There are VERY FAMOUS trendsetters who say that Dogtown inspired them.........Stacy Peralta-Zephyr Skateboards. This group of white teens inspired All America into skateboarding by showing then a different way of dress-art that they had gotten from this gang. The chino like shoes (vans) work gear, simple chicano look they mimicked from Dogtown.

If your saying Americas youth arent big into skater gear that would just be false. NO EVIDENCE thsi is Americas oldest gang? Disprove it. The oldest gangs of Chicago still active are some 1960 inventions. New York? zippo. Boston.....none.

This is a gang who faced injunctions in 2010...........120 years after they first founded.

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Re: AMERICAS OLDEST GANG

Post by stoptheviolence » April 17th, 2012, 5:26 pm

mayugastank wrote: The Italians have a longer history of banging then all ethnicitys. The Gambinos-Genovese-Colombos can all trace their roots to street gangs and then onto mafias.
this is true. future mafiosi back then grew up poor in communities like east harlem, lower east side, etc starting out as juveniles in street gangs and then graduated into the big leagues.
This is a gang who faced injunctions in 2010...........120 years after they first founded.
they were the first gang to have an injunction, back in 1982.

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Re: AMERICAS OLDEST GANG

Post by sonofmongol » April 17th, 2012, 6:02 pm

stoptheviolence wrote:
HoodBeenUp wrote:Nice article, but how can they be the americas oldest gang when New York, Boston, Philly and Chicago had gangs since the 1830s...... on. And what did they help influence? Because New York started color banging in America (brought from europe) and Chicago added in the drive-by. Interesting thought they been around for a hot minute props they didn't flip or anything.
mark twain said "America has only three cities: New York, San Francisco, and New Orleans. Everywhere else is Cleveland.” :lol: so you can't have a discussion about the oldest gangs and not mention san francisco or new orleans. in the 1800's san fran had a gang problem, look up the chinese tong wars. the tongs are considered one of the oldest secret societies to have ties to organized crime. and the mafia in america got its start in new orleans. im sure a lot of people think the american mafia started in ny or chicago, but thats not the case. anyway, just throwing in my :2cents: this is an interesting dicussion
tongs are very old and they are affiliated with the triads, which are even older created around the 1400s. its the oldest crime organization in the world and both have a lot of different factions all over. theres another organization called "tiandihui" it was created in the mid 1600s, the chinese were the first to create criminal organizations and most are all still active till this day and have huge numbers of members in the millions...

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Re: AMERICAS OLDEST GANG

Post by sonofmongol » April 17th, 2012, 6:05 pm

HoodBeenUp wrote:May- The are the oldest living gang I give them hella props for that. Its actually quite insane, so much history. The thing with New York and Chicago gangs is they merged into the mega gangs we have today as I said before like the Gangster Disciples, Black P Stones, Vice Lords, Latin Kings, and other medium sized mobs. So the independent history of gangs in Chicago and New York is gone....now the traditions is mostly from when these super mobs were created. And I am sure this gang had some influence on gang culture, but not all of it. New York started the color banging, Chicago started the drive-by, mobs like gangs, busting hats to the left and right. 5 and 6 points starts, shags (which mexican bangers in chicago use). The tattooing is probably one of the things dogtown started and some styles of gang wear. I wonder who started graffiti though.
tattooing was long created by east asian tribes thousands and thousands of years ago.

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Re: AMERICAS OLDEST GANG

Post by mayugastank » April 17th, 2012, 6:19 pm

sonofmongol wrote:
HoodBeenUp wrote:May- The are the oldest living gang I give them hella props for that. Its actually quite insane, so much history. The thing with New York and Chicago gangs is they merged into the mega gangs we have today as I said before like the Gangster Disciples, Black P Stones, Vice Lords, Latin Kings, and other medium sized mobs. So the independent history of gangs in Chicago and New York is gone....now the traditions is mostly from when these super mobs were created. And I am sure this gang had some influence on gang culture, but not all of it. New York started the color banging, Chicago started the drive-by, mobs like gangs, busting hats to the left and right. 5 and 6 points starts, shags (which mexican bangers in chicago use). The tattooing is probably one of the things dogtown started and some styles of gang wear. I wonder who started graffiti though.
tattooing was long created by east asian tribes thousands and thousands of years ago.

Tattooing was created by Africans. They had been marking their bodies-in ink since the begining of man. I AM NOT SAYING THAT.

The STYLE OF TATTOOING /.......mexican bangers invented had NEVER BEEN SEEN BEFORE> Thsi style was done in 1 color. Had shading-and 3d and was very intricate. No other culture in the world had ever tattooed in this manner. This style of tattooing known as "sombra" has changed all the worlds art. Go into any store today and youll see it on perfume bottles-shirts-purses-jeans etc.........

There are 3 forms of tattooing.........color ( the japanese have influenced this style more then anyone) black and grey (chicanos have influenced this style more then anyone) tribal (this is Maori culture)


But make no mistake before Chicano style inkwork had been incorporated into modern tattooing---tatttooing was extremely simple-and uncomplicated. It wasnt till the form of art known as Monochromatic black and grey touched Japanese-that Japan ese became so popular.

Art teachers point to Picassos use of shapes for transforming and making 3d-cubism-and even camoflague.

The art of tattooing is what it is today because of Chicanos. People are inking themselves again because Chicano style art. White convicts from California were tattooed by Mexicans while incarcerated and they then brought this art to other whites-nationwide.

The styles of writing-placements-shading-characters-figures. Even when other races tattoo their cultures symbols on them they are using either tribal-chicano or japanese art. By the form of lines-style of shading-or the placements.....

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Re: AMERICAS OLDEST GANG

Post by mayugastank » April 17th, 2012, 6:25 pm

sonofmongol wrote:
stoptheviolence wrote:
HoodBeenUp wrote:Nice article, but how can they be the americas oldest gang when New York, Boston, Philly and Chicago had gangs since the 1830s...... on. And what did they help influence? Because New York started color banging in America (brought from europe) and Chicago added in the drive-by. Interesting thought they been around for a hot minute props they didn't flip or anything.
mark twain said "America has only three cities: New York, San Francisco, and New Orleans. Everywhere else is Cleveland.” :lol: so you can't have a discussion about the oldest gangs and not mention san francisco or new orleans. in the 1800's san fran had a gang problem, look up the chinese tong wars. the tongs are considered one of the oldest secret societies to have ties to organized crime. and the mafia in america got its start in new orleans. im sure a lot of people think the american mafia started in ny or chicago, but thats not the case. anyway, just throwing in my :2cents: this is an interesting dicussion
tongs are very old and they are affiliated with the triads, which are even older created around the 1400s. its the oldest crime organization in the world and both have a lot of different factions all over. theres another organization called "tiandihui" it was created in the mid 1600s, the chinese were the first to create criminal organizations and most are all still active till this day and have huge numbers of members in the millions...

Tongs have no influence in American culture or the worlds fashion. Tongs did not use the modern form of graffiti-style of dress-the style of tattooing-the hand signals-the vehicle modifications-the art-the incorporation of music as gang voice.

This is all either black or mexican or white. Samoan-Cambodian-Vietnamese American gang arent creators of anything they either (1) copy mexicans (2) copy East Coast blacks.

How can a race of people say they have pride when they dont do anything but copy another cultures nuances.....and dont even bother trying to hide it? That tells me they are embarrassed of tehir culture.

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Re: AMERICAS OLDEST GANG

Post by sonofmongol » April 17th, 2012, 6:34 pm

mayugastank wrote:
sonofmongol wrote:
HoodBeenUp wrote:May- The are the oldest living gang I give them hella props for that. Its actually quite insane, so much history. The thing with New York and Chicago gangs is they merged into the mega gangs we have today as I said before like the Gangster Disciples, Black P Stones, Vice Lords, Latin Kings, and other medium sized mobs. So the independent history of gangs in Chicago and New York is gone....now the traditions is mostly from when these super mobs were created. And I am sure this gang had some influence on gang culture, but not all of it. New York started the color banging, Chicago started the drive-by, mobs like gangs, busting hats to the left and right. 5 and 6 points starts, shags (which mexican bangers in chicago use). The tattooing is probably one of the things dogtown started and some styles of gang wear. I wonder who started graffiti though.
tattooing was long created by east asian tribes thousands and thousands of years ago.

Tattooing was created by Africans. They had been marking their bodies-in ink since the begining of man. I AM NOT SAYING THAT.

The STYLE OF TATTOOING /.......mexican bangers invented had NEVER BEEN SEEN BEFORE> Thsi style was done in 1 color. Had shading-and 3d and was very intricate. No other culture in the world had ever tattooed in this manner. This style of tattooing known as "sombra" has changed all the worlds art. Go into any store today and youll see it on perfume bottles-shirts-purses-jeans etc.........

There are 3 forms of tattooing.........color ( the japanese have influenced this style more then anyone) black and grey (chicanos have influenced this style more then anyone) tribal (this is Maori culture)


But make no mistake before Chicano style inkwork had been incorporated into modern tattooing---tatttooing was extremely simple-and uncomplicated. It wasnt till the form of art known as Monochromatic black and grey touched Japanese-that Japan ese became so popular.

Art teachers point to Picassos use of shapes for transforming and making 3d-cubism-and even camoflague.

The art of tattooing is what it is today because of Chicanos. People are inking themselves again because Chicano style art. White convicts from California were tattooed by Mexicans while incarcerated and they then brought this art to other whites-nationwide.

The styles of writing-placements-shading-characters-figures. Even when other races tattoo their cultures symbols on them they are using either tribal-chicano or japanese art. By the form of lines-style of shading-or the placements.....
africans didnt create tattooing... they make scarifications, which is scarring not actual tattooing with ink.

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Re: AMERICAS OLDEST GANG

Post by mayugastank » April 17th, 2012, 6:36 pm

stoptheviolence wrote:
mayugastank wrote: The Italians have a longer history of banging then all ethnicitys. The Gambinos-Genovese-Colombos can all trace their roots to street gangs and then onto mafias.
this is true. future mafiosi back then grew up poor in communities like east harlem, lower east side, etc starting out as juveniles in street gangs and then graduated into the big leagues.
This is a gang who faced injunctions in 2010...........120 years after they first founded.
they were the first gang to have an injunction, back in 1982.

What I am getting at stoptheviolence is how you can trace modern banging culture right back to this gang. A white Irish kid from New York brought this gang-and alot of New York Italian gangster culture into Los Angelos and changed gang structure completely. Mexican kids now had Italian gangster names......such as PEEWEE, SHORTY, ROCCO, and dressed in Italian gangster gear because this Irish kid brought a New York style gang structure to West Coast Mexican kids.

The Mexican kids added their art into Italian New Yorker gangster culture and BAM......you have West Coast gangster life.

Their isnt a gang nationwide with close to that unbroken chain from New York in the 1800s to the streets of Los Angelos in 1890, to a gang injunction in the year 2010. It is BY FAR Americas oldest longest lived gang.

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Re: AMERICAS OLDEST GANG

Post by mayugastank » April 17th, 2012, 6:46 pm

sonofmongol............

Lets just say for the sake of argument that all cultures worldwide have a few things........music.art.tattooing.

Cortez wrote to Spain telling them that when he landed in America, the Aztecs were possessed by demons and were worshipping the devil and had managed to draw the devil onto their skin with ink...........this was in the 1500s.

The oldest tattooed skin was found in Africa-as was the first use of musical instruments....BUT THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH MODERN TATTOOING.

China or Africa have no influence in Modern tattooing. America shaped both Black and Mexican culture through their racism against our groups. Blacks developed-forms of speech-art-and music that the world had never known-here.

The artform of modern tattooing didnt start in Mexico. It started in America by Mexican kids who sought an identity and created a whole form of art borne out of oppression and racism. We arent using Tong art-tong style writing-Tong style clothing.

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Re: AMERICAS OLDEST GANG

Post by sonofmongol » April 17th, 2012, 6:49 pm

mayugastank wrote:
sonofmongol wrote:
stoptheviolence wrote:
HoodBeenUp wrote:Nice article, but how can they be the americas oldest gang when New York, Boston, Philly and Chicago had gangs since the 1830s...... on. And what did they help influence? Because New York started color banging in America (brought from europe) and Chicago added in the drive-by. Interesting thought they been around for a hot minute props they didn't flip or anything.
mark twain said "America has only three cities: New York, San Francisco, and New Orleans. Everywhere else is Cleveland.” :lol: so you can't have a discussion about the oldest gangs and not mention san francisco or new orleans. in the 1800's san fran had a gang problem, look up the chinese tong wars. the tongs are considered one of the oldest secret societies to have ties to organized crime. and the mafia in america got its start in new orleans. im sure a lot of people think the american mafia started in ny or chicago, but thats not the case. anyway, just throwing in my :2cents: this is an interesting dicussion
tongs are very old and they are affiliated with the triads, which are even older created around the 1400s. its the oldest crime organization in the world and both have a lot of different factions all over. theres another organization called "tiandihui" it was created in the mid 1600s, the chinese were the first to create criminal organizations and most are all still active till this day and have huge numbers of members in the millions...

Tongs have no influence in American culture or the worlds fashion. Tongs did not use the modern form of graffiti-style of dress-the style of tattooing-the hand signals-the vehicle modifications-the art-the incorporation of music as gang voice.

This is all either black or mexican or white. Samoan-Cambodian-Vietnamese American gang arent creators of anything they either (1) copy mexicans (2) copy East Coast blacks.

How can a race of people say they have pride when they dont do anything but copy another cultures nuances.....and dont even bother trying to hide it? That tells me they are embarrassed of tehir culture.
the title says "americas oldest gang" not "americas best dressing gang" and tongs got the oldest gang in america down and they actually influenced the european mobs to be more organized as well.

they are a secret organization, mobs move in silence not trying to attract attention...

and actually tongs were one of the first to do hand signs... the first were the triads... and they have been suping up cars for as long as time...

the samoan, cambodian, and vietnamese american gangs may not create anything, but the chinese did...

chinese invented the most if not a lot of things... important things... to help man advance... like gunpowder...

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Re: AMERICAS OLDEST GANG

Post by sonofmongol » April 17th, 2012, 6:57 pm

mayugastank wrote:sonofmongol............

Lets just say for the sake of argument that all cultures worldwide have a few things........music.art.tattooing.

Cortez wrote to Spain telling them that when he landed in America, the Aztecs were possessed by demons and were worshipping the devil and had managed to draw the devil onto their skin with ink...........this was in the 1500s.

The oldest tattooed skin was found in Africa-as was the first use of musical instruments....BUT THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH MODERN TATTOOING.

China or Africa have no influence in Modern tattooing. America shaped both Black and Mexican culture through their racism against our groups. Blacks developed-forms of speech-art-and music that the world had never known-here.

The artform of modern tattooing didnt start in Mexico. It started in America by Mexican kids who sought an identity and created a whole form of art borne out of oppression and racism. We arent using Tong art-tong style writing-Tong style clothing.
actually the oldest tattooed skin was found in europe... the guy is nicknamed "otzi the iceman" look it up if u didnt know about it...

the artform that the mexican americans so called started is copying the roman numerals...

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Re: AMERICAS OLDEST GANG

Post by mayugastank » April 17th, 2012, 7:05 pm

Tong gang in America influencing Italian Mafias....? are you kidding. They brought that with them from Italys , Sicilian Island. They had developed this structure because-Sicily was always teh first placed any invading army landed when seeking to control Europe.

Rape-injustice and murder were always followed by each and every arrival of foreigners into Sicily. The Sicilians created this mafia culture out of that. They then brought that with them when landing in America.

The oldest Tong gang in America if this is so, has had ZERO impact on modern American banging. You can take modern American banging and find it all with this gang. The structure-Italian. The art-Mexican. The music-African American.

Chinese people have zero presence in this discussion, nothing about the Tongs have shaped black-white or latino gangs. This is Americas oldest gang. It was started by an Irish kid who copied the style from New York Italians and was brought into the year 2012 by Mexicans.

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Re: AMERICAS OLDEST GANG

Post by sonofmongol » April 17th, 2012, 7:20 pm

mayugastank wrote:Tong gang in America influencing Italian Mafias....? are you kidding. They brought that with them from Italys , Sicilian Island. They had developed this structure because-Sicily was always teh first placed any invading army landed when seeking to control Europe.

Rape-injustice and murder were always followed by each and every arrival of foreigners into Sicily. The Sicilians created this mafia culture out of that. They then brought that with them when landing in America.

The oldest Tong gang in America if this is so, has had ZERO impact on modern American banging. You can take modern American banging and find it all with this gang. The structure-Italian. The art-Mexican. The music-African American.

Chinese people have zero presence in this discussion, nothing about the Tongs have shaped black-white or latino gangs. This is Americas oldest gang. It was started by an Irish kid who copied the style from New York Italians and was brought into the year 2012 by Mexicans.
tongs and italian mafias have been doing tradings for a long time before they even came to america...

the chinese and italian mafias have the same structures...

how can that gang start african american music when african american music started in the 60s-70s? and if it has african american music then its obviously copying from them...

and the so called "art-mexican" is only in california... not in other states...

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Re: AMERICAS OLDEST GANG

Post by mayugastank » April 17th, 2012, 7:28 pm

sonofmongol wrote:
mayugastank wrote:Tong gang in America influencing Italian Mafias....? are you kidding. They brought that with them from Italys , Sicilian Island. They had developed this structure because-Sicily was always teh first placed any invading army landed when seeking to control Europe.

Rape-injustice and murder were always followed by each and every arrival of foreigners into Sicily. The Sicilians created this mafia culture out of that. They then brought that with them when landing in America.

The oldest Tong gang in America if this is so, has had ZERO impact on modern American banging. You can take modern American banging and find it all with this gang. The structure-Italian. The art-Mexican. The music-African American.

Chinese people have zero presence in this discussion, nothing about the Tongs have shaped black-white or latino gangs. This is Americas oldest gang. It was started by an Irish kid who copied the style from New York Italians and was brought into the year 2012 by Mexicans.
tongs and italian mafias have been doing tradings for a long time before they even came to america...

the chinese and italian mafias have the same structures...

how can that gang start african american music when african american music started in the 60s-70s? and if it has african american music then its obviously copying from them...

and the so called "art-mexican" is only in california... not in other states...


what I said was modern american street culture is made up of Italian style gangs-with mexican style art and african american style music. we have lived close to eachother therefore we have all borrowed from eachother. You can see this by tracing this gangs history all the way back to New York. All these gangs who existed at one point and started gang culture have died out. THIS gang has not. They are where they were in 1890. The got hit with an injunction in the year 2010.

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Re: AMERICAS OLDEST GANG

Post by sonofmongol » April 17th, 2012, 7:39 pm

mayugastank wrote:
sonofmongol wrote:
mayugastank wrote:Tong gang in America influencing Italian Mafias....? are you kidding. They brought that with them from Italys , Sicilian Island. They had developed this structure because-Sicily was always teh first placed any invading army landed when seeking to control Europe.

Rape-injustice and murder were always followed by each and every arrival of foreigners into Sicily. The Sicilians created this mafia culture out of that. They then brought that with them when landing in America.

The oldest Tong gang in America if this is so, has had ZERO impact on modern American banging. You can take modern American banging and find it all with this gang. The structure-Italian. The art-Mexican. The music-African American.

Chinese people have zero presence in this discussion, nothing about the Tongs have shaped black-white or latino gangs. This is Americas oldest gang. It was started by an Irish kid who copied the style from New York Italians and was brought into the year 2012 by Mexicans.
tongs and italian mafias have been doing tradings for a long time before they even came to america...

the chinese and italian mafias have the same structures...

how can that gang start african american music when african american music started in the 60s-70s? and if it has african american music then its obviously copying from them...

and the so called "art-mexican" is only in california... not in other states...


what I said was modern american street culture is made up of Italian style gangs-with mexican style art and african american style music. we have lived close to eachother therefore we have all borrowed from eachother. You can see this by tracing this gangs history all the way back to New York. All these gangs who existed at one point and started gang culture have died out. THIS gang has not. They are where they were in 1890. The got hit with an injunction in the year 2010.
gangs out of the southwestern states dont use mexican style art... since it dont even exist out of the southwest... cities like baton rouge or brooklyn dont use that art style.

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Re: AMERICAS OLDEST GANG

Post by mayugastank » April 18th, 2012, 7:16 pm

Gangs out the Southwest dont use Mexican art? everyone uses our art........check out the show Jersey shore and youll see Mexican art plastered all over their bodies-their clothes. Calling themselves Guidos while wearing shirts that have symbolism to the Nuestra Familia-MAravilla-FRogtown and many more..........I cant go into any store today and not find about 75% of all clothing having some type of Chicano art.

New Yorkers dont use MExican Art? what about Maino....50 cent---all using a form of tattooing known as sombra....a style of art that NO ONE outside of US ever used even 15 years ago.

The fact is you cant really go into any spot today and not see throwbacks and incorporations of our art in Louis Vutton-Sean John-Dulce Gabana-Paco Chicano-Polo........Its what mexican bangers are known for. Their form of inkwork-their style of inkwork-and their way of drawing.

Its used throughout the WORLD now....with whites in Australia-Sweden-Ireland using our patterns without even knowing they are........

Much like evrything that has music today has some type of African American to it. Even when they sing the shit in Spanish......such as reggaeton.

Chinese people dont have any type or even a little bit of influence on American street gangs or culture.

American street culture is white-black-mexican. Mexicans dominate the styles of art-clothing today and blacks like always have dominated the music scene.

But this is just too long winded and I posted this thread with one thng in mind showing HOW American gangs got started and showing who is Americas oldest gang.

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Re: AMERICAS OLDEST GANG

Post by sonofmongol » April 18th, 2012, 8:21 pm

mayugastank wrote:Gangs out the Southwest dont use Mexican art? everyone uses our art........check out the show Jersey shore and youll see Mexican art plastered all over their bodies-their clothes. Calling themselves Guidos while wearing shirts that have symbolism to the Nuestra Familia-MAravilla-FRogtown and many more..........I cant go into any store today and not find about 75% of all clothing having some type of Chicano art.

New Yorkers dont use MExican Art? what about Maino....50 cent---all using a form of tattooing known as sombra....a style of art that NO ONE outside of US ever used even 15 years ago.

The fact is you cant really go into any spot today and not see throwbacks and incorporations of our art in Louis Vutton-Sean John-Dulce Gabana-Paco Chicano-Polo........Its what mexican bangers are known for. Their form of inkwork-their style of inkwork-and their way of drawing.

Its used throughout the WORLD now....with whites in Australia-Sweden-Ireland using our patterns without even knowing they are........

Much like evrything that has music today has some type of African American to it. Even when they sing the shit in Spanish......such as reggaeton.

Chinese people dont have any type or even a little bit of influence on American street gangs or culture.

American street culture is white-black-mexican. Mexicans dominate the styles of art-clothing today and blacks like always have dominated the music scene.

But this is just too long winded and I posted this thread with one thng in mind showing HOW American gangs got started and showing who is Americas oldest gang.
that dont look like mexican art at all... theres different styles of art they may look similar but its not the same...

the so called sombra art has european origins... as the mexican culture and people itself is european origins...

and not everybody on the east is like jersey shore... u dont see nobody having mexican style art... its usually tribal, chinese, and old english letters...

that tattoo that maino has is not mexican art... and 50 cent dont either...

polo and louie have mexican art? wtf... u must be seeing fake ones then cause the ones i see have no mexican art on them...

most people out of southwest states dont even know that mexican even bang... i didnt know till 3 years ago... and i found out cause of the rapper "the game" the mexicans on the east dont bang... they are usually targeted...

black americans invented everything in america that has to do with entertainment... and reggaeton is invented by puerto ricans...

american street culture is black and puerto rican nobody will think of mexican... when u say american street culture...

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Re: AMERICAS OLDEST GANG

Post by mayugastank » April 19th, 2012, 11:11 pm

50 cent and Maino and almost all rappers and almost everything that has designs all have mexican art. No one outside of MExicans had ever drawn -tattooed or used those patterns. All those rappers were tattooed by mexicans-its why it looks so similiar to Mexican art.

The Game-Tyga-Maino-Bow Wow-Lil B-Kid Cuddy-Paul Wall-50 Cent-Eminem-Proof-Jr Smith-Wak Flaka-were all tattooed by Mexican Tattoo artists look it up. Mainly BOOG-CARTOON-JOSE LOPEZ and KAT VON D.........all who use the style SOMBRA.

The form of tattooing they have on them is called "sombra" it begun in the early 19th century and was used only by anywhere in the world.

Now go look at just about every Tshirt designed today and youll see that same artwork. Stars and Straps-Paco Chicano-Sean John-Rebel 8-Ed Hardy. Ed Hardy owned a tattoo shop in East los Angelos called " good time charlies tattoo land". HE was amazed at the form of art Mexican bangers were doing and using and begun bringing it into the mainstream and hiring people to do Album covers and more such as the covers for Carlos Santana-Cypress Park-and Sublime.

I grew up when only Mexicans got tattooed in this form of art and it wasnt till the mid 1990s that blacks were begining to use it. The vast majority of blacks who did were from either California or Texas where the art was strongest.

but since you know so much about mexicans you should be telling me

This is the style of of art Im talking about. I am spending too much time schooling you and you should just look it up yourself.

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Re: AMERICAS OLDEST GANG

Post by f@sth@tch89 » April 20th, 2012, 1:30 am

Here we fuckin go again!!!! Mayuga...dude, this isn't streetgangs.com. There was over 40 or more pages of going back and forth on this same topic. ELA/NELA isn't the epicenter of modern gang banging!!!!

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