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Re: ws crips es crips

Postby He@vyNDaGame » March 5th, 2015, 9:16 pm

Its a wrap wrote:
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big kay wrote:east side came first out of freemont high on the founding father gang.the originals you had cats from were ecc hood is i think batman but raymond he came from swan area you also had jimel barnes he from avalon garden you had sam saltyand few others them from compton grandee richmond farm and boothill so it was an east side thang first with an inglewood twist than the ugblocc 100's were the first west side players to come in the mix



I second that , it was crippin in Inglewood commanded by mike christian (which is technically the W/S) before the it became a big time thing in South Central.Tookie wasn´t even the first to start on the W/S it was niggas in UBGC and other 100s spots.The triple OG Melvin,crips from the Wood, and some niggas in WLA were officially crippin through LA before Tookie.

Raymond Washington was the general who spread it all over ,it was an Eastside thing but it was Compton and Inglewood crips before the Westside.Raymond was the general and he spread it all over to the CPT and had dudes like Mac Thomas set it off in the Grandees. Dead Arm Elvis,Jimel , Salty ,and Hoover Joe were some of the originals.


You finally put up some real shit instead of ant-New York garbage. :whaat:

Count Mack is right, Tookie wasn't even a proper Westside Crips. He was a Westside Crip but in reality most of his rep was built up in Compton, the Grandees and Oak Park Boys claim affiliation with him durin the time when he did most of street shit. He was in the Eastside in Compton, the Grandee Crips was Westside and in the East in the Hub City was all Bloods/Pirus, except Oak Park Boys (not Crips), Downtown Compton, Mid Town Crips and a presence of US Boys Crips, Eastside Compton, North Long Beach. South Side Crips were Bloods, US Bloods, and the rest were LPP and ELM Piru branch off's, South Side used to claim Eastside CPT in the 80's dropped it after their beef with their beef with the Tanas, so did ADCC, they claim Southside only now.

In the Eastside SC, the Eastside Crips broke down, the earliest major Crips was East Coast (although some claimed Nhood first), 43 Gangster Crips, KCG and the Avalons Gangster Crips. I used to think that the 40's Avalons were the second main breakaway Crips after ECG but I was told by older niggaz that 43GC spawned most Crips in the Low Bottoms, they were the establishin force behind 48 and 42 Gangster Crips and also the Avalons and Broadways. The reason I thought 40's AGC were before 43GC was because the Avalons had many more reputables in the original Eastside Crips and were stronger than 43GC originally, although the Avalons being behind war in the late 80's. The Broadways also came from 43GC, they had another hood from 52x112 further north in the Low Bottom, I think in the 40's, but 43x42 GC got rid of that years ago. 43 GC was pushin Gangster Crip first in the East.

Raymond Washington was from Mad Swan and 76 Coast territory, Eastside Crips used to control the turf which is now divided into both gangs. Technically speakin, they was seperate, there was a 79 ECC but they are long dead. ECC was originally Shacc Boys, then 76, then 59 and then 89 (who was reppin NHC before ECC). 62, 66 and 68 was Hustler Crips in until the 77, 66 and 68 Hustler Crips continued after alot of them became ECC, they held down land East of 6Pacc and there was a 65 Hustlers. Also Hustlers in 59 ECC and the Low Bottoms, 55 Hustler Crips was deep when I was a kid, faded out earlier than 66/65 Hustler Crips though. 66 Hustler Crips died after F13 turned on them, they never had any numbers to continue, that are is like 99% Messican, a little bit West, 6Pacc, 52 Broadway is 15-25% black now, whole of Florence and Florence-Firestone, even Firestone Park used to be 80-85% black when I was a kid right next to all white Huntingdon Park . Huntingdon Park used to be a nice area, was mostly white until the 90's.

LOL I actually take it easy on them fools and them polluting the forum,so alot of their BS goes unanswered from me.

Shacc boys was from 76 ECC and it was 78ECC that was some 1980s getdown.




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Re: ws crips es crips

Postby He@vyNDaGame » March 5th, 2015, 9:18 pm

But different gangs was absorbed into coasts.

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Re: ws crips es crips

Postby jacktheripper » March 5th, 2015, 9:55 pm

Melvin Hardy started WSC when Tookie was in Camp claiming Al Capone......

40 Ozone Hustlers turn Avalon around 89/90. Thats techically 4-Hood.

ECC didnt start til 1978/79....
59s were Bethune Park Boys & 60 Outlaws
62s were 62 NHC
69s were Shack Boys
76s were Shack Boys
89s were Washington Park Boys & 89 NHC
97s were NHC
102s were 102st Crips
118s were Blocks
190s were Delamo Crips

43s & Kitchens were out before ECC
Swans are ex-ESC
Grapes were J.D.C & e/s WVGst Crips til 87, they turned GstW...

ECC is the last gang to form on the Eastside...

ESC only last a few years.

the Eastside broke up into Neighborhoods quick.

The Westside broke apart in 1973, Blocc was first the UGC, NHC.
ETG 1974
RSC 1974
Harlems Crips 1972...they was never WSC, they put Crip on it and kept their idenity. They turned Harlem Godfathers in 73, dropped it in 74..add Rollin 30 in 1978....

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Re: ws crips es crips

Postby He@vyNDaGame » March 5th, 2015, 10:23 pm

89 was bastards .Some people say ECC goes back to 77 but it was not the last gang to form. Main street 84,98 are an example.

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Re: ws crips es crips

Postby PmoneY » March 6th, 2015, 1:16 am

This nigga jack :whaat:

But yeah Took thought what Capone did on his st valentines day massacre was ruthless but he never claimed him ,Italians back east was always racist towards blacks and still is now .....

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Re: ws crips es crips

Postby Alley-Oop! » March 6th, 2015, 7:48 pm

I lived out there for awhile and the first and most mentioned name I heard was Tookie and then I learned about Ray Wash later.

Everybody seem to want to discount Took for some reason,but every gang gotta leader and his name was ringing even when he was locked up.

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Re: ws crips es crips

Postby PmoneY » March 6th, 2015, 10:21 pm

Yeah Took got tha fame & lotta people think he was tha founder of Crip but he was tha co founder,His name rung bells kuz he was like tha real life D bo of his day,Raymond lee & alotta otha niggaz had hands also but Took combined that with the body building culture in L.A & was really feared & known around tha city :2cents:

Both him & Raymond lee was feared but Took was feared more kuz of his physical physique, Being swole was a big thing back than in tha land,Niggaz used to hit Venice beach & was lifting more than hogan or terminator but drugz hit & fucked alot of niggaz up .....

Remember how big tha actor D bo was back in tha day,Niggaz was on swole back than,some still are but not like before :2cents:

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Re: ws crips es crips

Postby DConflict2011 » January 29th, 2016, 10:50 am

Took wasn't the best fighter, what he did have was as people pointed out is size. His hands weren't on the level of Raymond's and some others. His size made the difference, you couldn't let him get a hold of you.

Raymond got knocked out by a dude that my father knows, I'll get the exact details later.

The man who killed Raymond is still alive, but I'm not going to discuss that.

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Re: ws crips es crips

Postby DConflict2011 » January 29th, 2016, 10:52 am

I think the Mad Swan name comes from a ESC who went by the name of Big Swan, I've seen his pictures.

Batman has a book with Big Swan in it.

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Re: ws crips es crips

Postby foolassnigga » January 29th, 2016, 10:08 pm

DConflict2011 wrote:I think the Mad Swan name comes from a ESC who went by the name of Big Swan, I've seen his pictures.

Batman has a book with Big Swan in it.

You mean Vertis Swan

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Postby DConflict2011 » January 30th, 2016, 12:17 am

foolassnigga wrote:
DConflict2011 wrote:I think the Mad Swan name comes from a ESC who went by the name of Big Swan, I've seen his pictures.

Batman has a book with Big Swan in it.

You mean Vertis Swan

The dude in the book went by Big Swan, maybe there is another guy.

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Re: ws crips es crips

Postby TELL-EM-AGEEIN' » March 23rd, 2016, 7:07 am

DConflict2011 wrote:Took wasn't the best fighter, what he did have was as people pointed out is size. His hands weren't on the level of Raymond's and some others. His size made the difference, you couldn't let him get a hold of you.

Raymond got knocked out by a dude that my father knows, I'll get the exact details later.

The man who killed Raymond is still alive, but I'm not going to discuss that.


:ohhh: :ohhh: discuss it. it had to be somebody he had some problems with.

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Postby TELL-EM-AGEEIN' » March 23rd, 2016, 7:09 am

it started wit raymond and some otha east side niggas. took brought it to the west, i think took get that notoriety because it was the west side who really put the crippin on the map and responsible for certain things like the wearing of the color blue.

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Postby TELL-EM-AGEEIN' » March 23rd, 2016, 7:14 am

King♚Kutthroat wrote:it started wit raymond and some otha east side niggas. took brought it to the west (so thats whats been told) i think took get that notoriety because it was the west side who really put the crippin on the map and responsible for certain things like the wearing of the color blue.

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Re: ws crips es crips

Postby bgcasper » March 23rd, 2016, 10:23 am

according to originals the color blue came from buddha one of the first generation baby avenu

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Postby PmoneY » March 23rd, 2016, 11:54 am

@DConflict,

From what tha Streetz say Raymond never lost a street fight,Let alone got knocked out.....Niggaz would've verified that fa sho & nobody ever heard of this.....Not saying your popz lying but it's all type of rumors that's not true......

@King,I wouldn't say tha W/s put cripping on tha map but tha 60z vs 83gcz was a big war in tha crip world that got alot if otha sets involved, Verz,40z,100z are examples

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Re: ws crips es crips

Postby TELL-EM-AGEEIN' » March 23rd, 2016, 4:18 pm

first generation baby avenue.?? thats confusing. i always got that he rolled with took and the OWSC. but i said that because even with them guys that got prosecuted for the murder of ol boy over the jacket they was WestSidaz, 83cg and 60'z (2 west side sets) it's just like the west side did the most that caught people's attention beyond the gang world for some reason so that's why i said that

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Re: ws crips es crips

Postby TELL-EM-AGEEIN' » March 23rd, 2016, 4:20 pm

King♚Kutthroat wrote:
DConflict2011 wrote:Took wasn't the best fighter, what he did have was as people pointed out is size. His hands weren't on the level of Raymond's and some others. His size made the difference, you couldn't let him get a hold of you.

Raymond got knocked out by a dude that my father knows, I'll get the exact details later.

The man who killed Raymond is still alive, but I'm not going to discuss that.


:ohhh: :ohhh: discuss it. it had to be somebody he had some problems with. 9that killed him) should've put that in there before

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Re: ws crips es crips

Postby LRoBNHB » March 23rd, 2016, 5:19 pm

King♚Kutthroat wrote:
King♚Kutthroat wrote:
DConflict2011 wrote:Took wasn't the best fighter, what he did have was as people pointed out is size. His hands weren't on the level of Raymond's and some others. His size made the difference, you couldn't let him get a hold of you.

Raymond got knocked out by a dude that my father knows, I'll get the exact details later.

The man who killed Raymond is still alive, but I'm not going to discuss that.


:ohhh: :ohhh: discuss it. it had to be somebody he had some problems with. 9that killed him) should've put that in there before


Well if they do decide to discuss the nigga that killed him, could still be prosecuted for the murder charge since the statues of limitations for murder is life.

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Re: ws crips es crips

Postby LRoBNHB » March 23rd, 2016, 5:20 pm

King♚Kutthroat wrote:
King♚Kutthroat wrote:
DConflict2011 wrote:Took wasn't the best fighter, what he did have was as people pointed out is size. His hands weren't on the level of Raymond's and some others. His size made the difference, you couldn't let him get a hold of you.

Raymond got knocked out by a dude that my father knows, I'll get the exact details later.

The man who killed Raymond is still alive, but I'm not going to discuss that.


:ohhh: :ohhh: discuss it. it had to be somebody he had some problems with. 9that killed him) should've put that in there before


And police do be lurking on this site

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Re: ws crips es crips

Postby TELL-EM-AGEEIN' » March 23rd, 2016, 7:44 pm

yeah you right. if niggas know i jus wanna know what gang/set he was from

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