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Re: LA or Chicago

Post by Realspit » November 7th, 2013, 9:36 pm

Cocaine wrote:Wut is a Chico? I kno chuks is slang for puchuco
This thing be auto correcting

Was tryna say chuco.

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Re: LA or Chicago

Post by 619Loc » November 7th, 2013, 10:21 pm

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Hi I'm Chucky wrote:Chicago has documented gangs since the 1840s. Who engaged in turf battles and other stuff. So does New York.
LA cholo style is from Texas. Chicago indemographicthe drive-by shooting. You guys keis not were they were ping saying what Capone was doing was not gangbanging, but Chicago had street gangs during this time already. Chicago had the mob and street gangs. The mob was just more organized :2cents:


Yeah but which one of those gangs from the 1840s is here today ? Same name same street where they started in 1840? Truth is chicago like new york has gone through numerous demographic changes almost every ethnicity has had its share on those blocks ultimately thwy ended up black or Hispanic...when people think of southside Chicago 1920 they think of italians or irish duking it out not brothers and if they were duking it out none of those same gangs are here today up until the mid to late 40s....now as for the cholo being from texas is fact but even then theres disputes that it belongs to juarez mexico then it went to texas and it landed in east la and the proof of that is a gang named juarez maravilla which is going as far as the 1920s still here still posted in the same spot were they started close to geraghy loma who even they started as a maravilla gang and broke off into a feud of 80 years plus ...so whats the point is that unless u can point out a gang that is still here from when it started and where its at now ...then its irrelevant because alot of places had gangs and guess what like nyc chicago and san francisco they all faded out until the mid 40s +
The Chico is from Texas, the cholo is from LA. Chuck is the forefather of the cholo. The cholo is when modern gang bangin shit really started to crack for Mexicans in LA. That's why I say the hoods might have been there but when we talkin about straight out st warfare and the subculture shit that goes with it u see a lot of that at the end of the civil rights movement w blacks and Latinos nation wide.

didn't gang banging die down during the early 60's when everyone was trying to be revolutionary

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Re: LA or Chicago

Post by gee raider » November 7th, 2013, 11:00 pm

I meant the pachuco not cholo

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Re: LA or Chicago

Post by Realspit » November 7th, 2013, 11:14 pm

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Hi I'm Chucky wrote:Chicago has documented gangs since the 1840s. Who engaged in turf battles and other stuff. So does New York.
LA cholo style is from Texas. Chicago indemographicthe drive-by shooting. You guys keis not were they were ping saying what Capone was doing was not gangbanging, but Chicago had street gangs during this time already. Chicago had the mob and street gangs. The mob was just more organized :2cents:


Yeah but which one of those gangs from the 1840s is here today ? Same name same street where they started in 1840? Truth is chicago like new york has gone through numerous demographic changes almost every ethnicity has had its share on those blocks ultimately thwy ended up black or Hispanic...when people think of southside Chicago 1920 they think of italians or irish duking it out not brothers and if they were duking it out none of those same gangs are here today up until the mid to late 40s....now as for the cholo being from texas is fact but even then theres disputes that it belongs to juarez mexico then it went to texas and it landed in east la and the proof of that is a gang named juarez maravilla which is going as far as the 1920s still here still posted in the same spot were they started close to geraghy loma who even they started as a maravilla gang and broke off into a feud of 80 years plus ...so whats the point is that unless u can point out a gang that is still here from when it started and where its at now ...then its irrelevant because alot of places had gangs and guess what like nyc chicago and san francisco they all faded out until the mid 40s +
The Chico is from Texas, the cholo is from LA. Chuck is the forefather of the cholo. The cholo is when modern gang bangin shit really started to crack for Mexicans in LA. That's why I say the hoods might have been there but when we talkin about straight out st warfare and the subculture shit that goes with it u see a lot of that at the end of the civil rights movement w blacks and Latinos nation wide.

didn't gang banging die down during the early 60's when everyone was trying to be revolutionary
All those movements was dyin at the en of th 60s. In la there was a gap in black gangs because all the pre b and c blk gangs became panthers or chilled out, the Latino communities chilled on their bullshit too w the brown berets, etc. when that stuff died down due to the popo and cointelpro from the Feds we saw st gangs pick up again and way worse.

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Re: LA or Chicago

Post by 619Loc » November 7th, 2013, 11:17 pm

I always said that if the police wante to stop gang banging they could have a long time ago.
Its to their benefit that they don't.

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Re: LA or Chicago

Post by gee raider » November 8th, 2013, 6:50 pm

I just dont buy it...on the mexican side it never died down those gangs didnt fade like the slausons or gladiators whatever gang became politicaly active must have been based on individuals comin from those barrios but barrios as a whole are well recognize for being politically active take for instance clanton 14s political contributions I mean gangs like playboys and the car club culture mixed with the greaser were just springing up and then they were going to lay it down for politics I just dont buy it looking back from 60s below u cant find alot of deaths which mostly came in agressive ass beatings with bats and chains and occasionally guns take for instance triple og big d his father was a victim of gangmembers from pacoima in 1941 for them beig kicked out of a party... :rip:

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Re: LA or Chicago

Post by 619Loc » November 8th, 2013, 7:02 pm

As much as the people involve in music will deny that music has an influence on why people do shit, I truly believe "gangster rap" had influence on gang banging in the 90's.

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Re: LA or Chicago

Post by 619Loc » November 8th, 2013, 7:03 pm

As much as the people involve in music will deny that music has an influence on why people do shit, I truly believe "gangster rap" had influence on gang banging in the 90's.

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Re: LA or Chicago

Post by baby thug » November 8th, 2013, 7:18 pm

i know since the early 60's L.A. had gangs like the gladiators and the slausons they wernt really shooting tho they were just fighting i dont know about chicago tho

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Re: LA or Chicago

Post by gee raider » November 8th, 2013, 7:18 pm

gee raider wrote:I just dont buy it...on the mexican side it never died down those gangs didnt fade like the slausons or gladiators whatever gang became politicaly active must have been based on individuals comin from those barrios but barrios as a whole are well recognize for being politically active take for instance clanton 14s political contributions I mean gangs like playboys and the car club culture mixed with the greaser were just springing up and then they were going to lay it down for politics I just dont buy it looking back from 60s below u cant find alot of deaths which mostly came in agressive ass beatings with bats and chains and occasionally guns take for instance triple og big d his father was a victim of gangmembers from pacoima in 1941 for them beig kicked out of a party... :rip:



U cant find alot of deaths

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Re: LA or Chicago

Post by HANDSOMEHUSTLER44 » November 9th, 2013, 11:23 am

Realspit wrote:
hotshot330 wrote:
chitown312 wrote:This is not a Thread to create a La vs Chicago hoodup ...


Put an end to the shit in this way !!!!!!!!!!!!



Where did Gangbangin start ??

Please dont give me those irrelevent in 1600 Bc the Incas bullshit or the 1912 bullshit either


When it comes to Black and Spanish Gangs ,who went Mainstream 1st ..Who started it ..Who has the More Popular gangs Nationwide ???? No bias shit ..all opinions ...NO La vs Chicago shit !!!!!!!!!!!
In America gangs started in New York. Only reason y'all gangs still up and running is because y'all make an nation out of them which kept it running throughout generation. Most New York gangs faded off because members either got old, died, made their money or was serving extreme bids & started wising up, simply leaving the shit alone.
No the reason gangs died in NY is because y'all an organized crime city centered around the mob. Chicago and LA are gang cities, the mob don't have shit on chi and la they never ran or extorted niggas like in NY because there's too many gangs too Bogard. Too many niggas and latins. By y'all havin cliques and crews w some major crews the mob could lean on one crew who's supplying a whole borough hood, or all the black niggas. You couldn't contain the 100s and thousands of gang members in the chi or la, cuz if the mob stepped in they would just click up on we blood, we crip, we gd, we Avln, we Southsiders, we kings u can't fuck w those numbers.


nigga you crazy I don't know about LA but the Mob was heavily influenced in the chi... the movie "Casino" with Robert DeNiro & Pesci was about The Chicago Mob......they all started getting locked up in the 80's when most of the black mobs started taken power



and the mob in Ny didn't control shit in black neighborhoods niggaz would get work from them but that's it and that ended around the late 70's when all the Dominicans/Cubans & Columbians started moving in and Getting Niggaz much cheaper prices on Much better Product

Only reason niggaz dealed with them I-talians was becuz them was the only niggaz that had Coke & Dope.....Jamiacans & other west indie niggaz had it but far & few

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Re: LA or Chicago

Post by HANDSOMEHUSTLER44 » November 9th, 2013, 11:26 am

and bangin in La & NY is Lame compared to Chicago......Chicago is real organized gangsta shit.......real masterminds makin moves not just niggaz standin on corners wearin rags :cmon: You niggaz Lame and them East Coast niggaz too for Adopting that weak shit

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Re: LA or Chicago

Post by HANDSOMEHUSTLER44 » November 9th, 2013, 11:32 am

NYC had a sick legacy too all the bosses that came up in the 70's, 80's and 90's Fat cat, Supreme & Prince......Niggaz in Harlem Rich porter, Fritz, Preacher.....boy George in the Bronx......

then you still had the all the Italian legends like Meyer Lanksy....Lucky LUciano Frank castello........Nyc was the Holy Grail for Gangsta shit

but you new niggaz are gay for bringin that weak la shit to ny........fucked up ny's name forever

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Re: LA or Chicago

Post by Low❌Pro » November 9th, 2013, 11:53 am

Realspit wrote:Real spit...

LA has the oldest modern hoods not st gangs if u throw in the Latin half. LA's oldest hood Dogtown still bangin and they from 1890 but a Irish kid from NY started it.

Also the Vato lloco sureno Mexican banger wouldn't come really until the late 60's but u can put the Pachuco from the 40s as the start of the modern Mexican st banger. They would be the same as the start of the gds and all them niggas when they first started.

The late 60s is when y'all really saw the beginning of the bangin gang banger before that the get down of a st banger wasn't solidified it was lil rascal, car club, juvenile type shit, everywhere, real chop.

Chi has the oldest modern black st bangers.

LA's gangster style from the ink, gang graffiti, throwing K's on enemies, sayings like ebk, abk, the 3 letter gang abbreviations, color banging alliances, has more of an influence

Chicagos style of banging has more of an influence, nation banging, codes and lit, because that's the whole east coast and parts of the south.

LA's st gangs and prison gangs are more popular:

Crips
Bloods
18thst
Ms-13
La eme
AB
BGF
UBN

Chi:
GDs
vLs
bPS
lKs

I would say the kings gds and moes come after crips and bloods then 18th and ms 13.

So la got:
Oldest modern hoods
Gangster style
Most popular gangs

Chi got:
Oldest blk hoods
Style of banging

La EmE aka MessycuNt MaricoNz are not a gang...

as for hoods... LA the oldest for Neighborhood gangs... Nor cal the oldest for City gangs (Gangs claimin a city instead of a specific block) and Area Code Gangs...


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Re: LA or Chicago

Post by Hi I'm Chucky » November 9th, 2013, 1:04 pm

Most them mob movies with Dinero was about the Chicago outfit :lol: And niggas say they wouldn't watch a movie about chicago niggas :2cents: Baseball beating scene at the end of casino was carried out by the chicago outfit to. That scene was brutal when I was a youngster

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Re: LA or Chicago

Post by Realspit » November 9th, 2013, 1:06 pm

gee raider wrote:I just dont buy it...on the mexican side it never died down those gangs didnt fade like the slausons or gladiators whatever gang became politicaly active must have been based on individuals comin from those barrios but barrios as a whole are well recognize for being politically active take for instance clanton 14s political contributions I mean gangs like playboys and the car club culture mixed with the greaser were just springing up and then they were going to lay it down for politics I just dont buy it looking back from 60s below u cant find alot of deaths which mostly came in agressive ass beatings with bats and chains and occasionally guns take for instance triple og big d his father was a victim of gangmembers from pacoima in 1941 for them beig kicked out of a party... :rip:
I didn't say the Chicano hoods stopped banging I said they chilled out, the brown berets were big in the barrio at that time, the stoner era all that. It was a time of minority conciousness for the most part, but of course u had fools still doin dirt. Its after the civil rights era u say more killin , guns and shit.

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