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BREAKING NEWS.Bob Arum wants judges investigated 4 decision

Postby ohnosmh » June 10th, 2012, 9:55 pm

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LAS VEGAS – Promoter Bob Arum was still fuming about the split-decision verdict that went against Manny Pacquiao on Saturday and said there would be no rematch with Timothy Bradley unless Nevada attorney general Catherine Cortez Masto launches an investigation.

Bradley, a 4-1 underdog, upset Pacquiao in one of the most controversial outcomes in years to take the World Boxing Organization welterweight title.

All three judges scored it 115-113, with Duane Ford and C.J. Ross seeing it in favor of Bradley and Jerry Roth siding with Pacquiao.

The rematch that Bradley thought he would get may be on hold, at least for a while, however. Arum, whose company promotes both fighters, said his feeling that Pacquiao had won a wide decision had not changed a day later.

Timothy Bradley celebrates after beating Manny Pacquiao by split decision. (AP)

But because of the outcry among the fans and media, many of whom accused Arum of somehow rigging the outcome, the veteran promoter said he would demand an investigation.

"I want to investigate whether there was any undue influence, whether the (Nevada Athletic Commission) gave any particular instruction and how they came to this conclusion," said Arum, who at the post-fight news conference was adamant the result was a mistake but not the result of any chicanery. "But the whole sport is in an uproar. People are going crazy.

"If this was a subjective view that each of [the judges] honestly held, OK. I would still disagree, but then we're off the hook in terms of there being no conspiracy. But there needs to be an independent investigation because it strains credulity that an event everybody saw as so one-sided one way all three judges saw it as close. It strains credulity."

[Related: Timothy Bradley beats Manny Pacquiao in controversial split decision]

Ford spoke by telephone to Yahoo! Sports on Sunday. He said the criticism is a part of the job he accepts, but said those criticizing the outcome are almost certainly not familiar with the way fights are judged.

"If this were American Idol, without a doubt, Manny Pacquiao would have won," Ford said. "But it was not. I gave an honest opinion. I had Pacquiao up 4-2, I think, at the end of six rounds. I thought he hurt Bradley a couple of times early in the fight. But when the bell rang to end that round, it was over and what happens in one round doesn't carry over to the next round. They're separate units.

"In the second half of the fight, Pacquiao picked off a lot of punches to the head, but Bradley landed some hard body shots. That hurt Pacquiao. I don't mean it hurt him in the sense of it physically hurting him, but in terms of scoring and piling up points. Bradley did an excellent job standing his ground as a boxer. Remember, it's a boxing match and Bradley demonstrated his ability to box expertly."

Bradley has been harshly criticized by many who believe Pacquiao won, but the fact that Bradley won the fight with two badly injured feet should say something about his tenacity.

And the bout might suggest that Pacquiao is declining more than previously thought. If he had trouble with a fighter who had two injured feet and needed a wheelchair to attend the post-fight news conference, how difficult would it have been for him had his opponent been completely mobile?

[Related: Timothy Bradley attends post-fight press conference in wheelchair after win]

Bradley injured his left foot in the second round when he pivoted. His manager, Cameron Dunkin, said an examination late Saturday revealed torn ligaments that will keep him off it for several weeks to a month.

He said the X-ray did not show a fracture, but doctors ordered an MRI on Monday in Palm Springs, Calif.

"They said that just because the X-ray did not show a fracture didn't mean there isn't one," Dunkin said. "He has a lot of pain on the top of the foot and there are 700 bones in there. Some of them are so small. The doctor said the only way to tell if there is a fracture is to do an MRI."

He said there was no serious injury to the right foot, which was far more swollen than the left.

"The right was just kind of rolled and it was basically a twisted foot that was pretty swollen," Dunkin said.

[Related: Kevin Iole on Y! Radio: Manny Pacquiao was robbed]

Dunkin also said he was fine if Arum chose not to arrange a rematch. He said Top Rank promotes Bradley and owes him a fight. If it chose not to make a rematch with Pacquiao, it would have to book a different fight for Bradley.

Juan Manuel Marquez, who lost a controversial decision to Pacquiao on Nov. 12 in the same arena, was in attendance Saturday, Top Rank president Todd duBoef said, because the company was planning to make Pacquiao-Marquez IV in the event of a Pacquiao win.

That changed in light of the outcome, and Pacquiao said he wanted a rematch. Ultimately, Arum will likely accede to Pacquiao's wishes.

Pacquiao's next fight almost certainly will not be in Las Vegas after the uproar over Saturday's fight. Ford, though, said it is unfair for those who don't know the scoring criteria and who weren't focusing intently on the fight to bash the judges.

"In pro boxing, you look for damage, and if the punches are equal and the damage is equal, you are looking for effective aggression, and that does not necessarily mean the guy going forward," Ford said. "Effective aggression can be a guy going back. And then you look at ring generalship, and that's all about control.

"When you score a fight of that magnitude, you know the criticism comes with the job. But unless you are totally focused on that scoring zone for three minutes, it's impossible to score the fight correctly. I know you can't do it talking into a microphone. It was a close fight in my mind that could have gone either way. The result was nothing more than three judges giving an honest opinion, and nothing other than that."

[Related: Y! Sports' crew reacts to Timothy Bradley-Manny Pacquiao decision]

Arum told media at ringside that Dunkin had scored it 116-112 for Pacquiao, but Dunkin angrily denied that Sunday. Dunkin said he had it 115-113 in favor of Bradley.

He said he understands the uproar, but said most of it is because of Pacquiao's huge popularity.

"If they're fighting on a street and we're just scoring the fight, the whole fight, I can see you thinking maybe Pacquiao won it," Dunkin said. "But when you score it round by round, I think it's very reasonable to believe Bradley won."





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Re: BREAKING NEWS.Bob Arum wants judges investigated 4 decis

Postby ohnosmh » June 10th, 2012, 9:59 pm

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^^^^^AFTER THE FIGHT :facepalm:

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Re: BREAKING NEWS.Bob Arum wants judges investigated 4 decis

Postby SOUTH SIDE SWERV » June 11th, 2012, 12:54 am

WAIT, HOW WHY WHO PUT THIS NIGGA IN THE WHEEL CHAIR?... :lmao:

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Re: BREAKING NEWS.Bob Arum wants judges investigated 4 decis

Postby Problematico » June 11th, 2012, 2:30 am

They already said there's not gonna be a review on it or on the judges. He avoiding the heat on himself & he's on that I tried to get an investigation done "I want to investigate whether there was any undue influence, whether the (Nevada Athletic Commission) gave any particular instruction and how they came to this conclusion," said Arum, who at the post-fight news conference was adamant the result was a mistake but not the result of any chicanery. " So he wants other modafokas investigated. Everybody droping his name saying he is behind the chicanery that went down. But he doesn't think there was any chicanery done but it was a mistake somehow. Meaning he had no influence or reason for him to be involved in the outcome but implying someone else might have & they should be invstigated & not him. That's basicly what he saying :lol:

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Re: BREAKING NEWS.Bob Arum wants judges investigated 4 decis

Postby SHANK » June 11th, 2012, 8:07 am

LOOKS LIKE IT WONT BE A MAYWEATHER N PACMAN FIGHT :lmao:

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Re: BREAKING NEWS.Bob Arum wants judges investigated 4 decis

Postby ACE2 » June 11th, 2012, 4:06 pm

SHANK wrote:LOOKS LIKE IT WONT BE A MAYWEATHER N PACMAN FIGHT :lmao:



more like Mayweather/Bradley fight now....

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Re: BREAKING NEWS.Bob Arum wants judges investigated 4 decis

Postby ohnosmh » June 11th, 2012, 10:58 pm

i dont even know if mayweather camp would even wanna fight bradley after this.if they do,i hope mayweather knocks that clown out n i dont even like mayweather

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Re: BREAKING NEWS.Bob Arum wants judges investigated 4 decis

Postby Problematico » June 12th, 2012, 3:13 am

The shit is if Bradley's ankle wasn't fucked I can see why he could've taken it. But he didn't take it this time. He could land better punches & move better then what he did cause he was stationary sometimes & moving backwards alot all sloppy looking. He was eating that left all night & his punches were not landing cleanly most of them were on Pac's wrist. Alot were luv taps no power in them since he got that ankle fucked up. It be hard to to put your weight in them punches. I gave rd 1 to Bradley 7 & 11. Pac kept moving forward he missed some shots cause of the awkwardness shit Bradley was doin cause of his ankle. Maybe next time Pac could catch him better since his ankle ain't gonna be the same. So all that hype they givig him for making him miss is not by his doin but his ankle the awkwardness is what threw Pac off target. He couldn't put his weight properly on them so he moved diffrent then a Boxer with they ankles aight.

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Re: BREAKING NEWS.Bob Arum wants judges investigated 4 decis

Postby Problematico » June 12th, 2012, 3:15 am

I can see PBF K.Oing Pac cause he jumps in alot & when he throwing them wild punches he be taking himself off balance. Just like when Bailey landed that uppercut to Jones. He threw that jab jumping in to him & Bailey moved back a lil & toma headknocker. PBF would have to fight with the style he fought Cotto. That beast mode but box like he does not brawl to much fuck risking it. A solid counter punch from PBF will do it to Pac. The punches PBF likes to throw be the ones that have landed on Pac & he added that Zab & Mosley hit after Cotto wich also land on him. After the last 2 fights from Pac I don't see him beating PBF. The were both counter punchers too & he said JMM is one brilliant counter puncher but they ain't on PBF's level. Since Pac's a left be his power punch he gotta break PBf's phillyshell. Since it's to avoid lefts he gotta throw more right hands to PBF's left to open up his right side. They take him off balance while he adjusts his body back into it. He gotta hurt him on his left to hurt him on his right more.

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Re: BREAKING NEWS.Bob Arum wants judges investigated 4 decis

Postby Solidified » June 12th, 2012, 3:20 am

He just doing that to try to take sum of the heat off. Nigga was both fighters promoter.....mfs had the rematch poster done and up a week before the fight, and pac man didnt even look bothered by the decision :lol: a huge set up/scam

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Re: BREAKING NEWS.Bob Arum wants judges investigated 4 decis

Postby ohnosmh » June 12th, 2012, 4:32 pm

Solidified wrote:He just doing that to try to take sum of the heat off. Nigga was both fighters promoter.....mfs had the rematch poster done and up a week before the fight, and pac man didnt even look bothered by the decision :lol: a huge set up/scam



exactly smh

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Re: BREAKING NEWS.Bob Arum wants judges investigated 4 decis

Postby ohnosmh » June 12th, 2012, 4:32 pm

alot of niggas prolly didnt even kno who da fuck bradley was until this fight.i damn sure didnt

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Re: BREAKING NEWS.Bob Arum wants judges investigated 4 decis

Postby Solidified » June 12th, 2012, 4:36 pm

ohnosmh wrote:alot of niggas prolly didnt even kno who da fuck bradley was until this fight.i damn sure didnt

me either :lol: seem like dude had a good rep on his shoulders but still.

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Re: BREAKING NEWS.Bob Arum wants judges investigated 4 decis

Postby Problematico » June 13th, 2012, 11:27 am

He said they won't be a rematch till a full investigation is done. The funny thing is Brian Kenny who's tight with Arum is backing the judges. He saying he can't believe the cries of a robbery cause he had it 7-5 for Bradley. 1 judge said he schooled & outboxed Pac :lol:. Didn't none of this modafokas take into account how sloppy he was looking cause of his ankle & how off balance he was makin himself when trying the get away from Pac. And who caused that ankle to get fucked up when Bradley was feeling them hits & that pressure. U can't box as you would if ur ankles ain't rite. So I don't see it or buy into why they gave it to him. I gotta correct a typo while i'm at it that I noticed uptop before modafokas think i'm bugging. If ya seen the compubox rd by rd it was rd 8 not 7 :lol:.

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Re: BREAKING NEWS.Bob Arum wants judges investigated 4 decis

Postby Problematico » June 13th, 2012, 11:54 am

What's done is done I'm gonna watch that rematch but I aint gonna cough out shit gonna go on that link :321: .

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