BLACK EGPYT?

[BlackMagicDiamond]

Even if there was a Bronze Age you would still say that it wasnt created by Africans

[3l3m3ntal]

THIS IS THE FIRST PHARAOH OF EGPYT..PHARAOH NAMER...WOW LOOK AT THAT EUROPEAN NOSE LOL !...NOT!

!...NOT!

INTRODUCING SETI I, FATHER OF RAMSES II

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZPpZwPZH5w[/youtube]

[JazzieB]

Hello much love. P.S. I brought the USA down in 5 minutes

Plus the don't have a constitutional shit any more.


:rasta:

[freddiefourfingers]

lol..

there's also a complete and utter LACK of intensive archaeological work being done on investigating sub-saharan history. i won't sit here and declare that 20 story castles was built along the equator, but--- i will declare that there remains much to be seen beneath the dirt.

telling me they didn't have "advanced civ." doesn't mean they don't have history. just means the sh*t that typically spreads from one people to another to another thus allowing the advnced civs, didn't come into full swing in many parts of africa. whether the spread involved domesticated veggetation, work force animals, food source animals, advanced metallurgy, literary systems, etc, it just didn't penetrate early on in africa. unlike what we've seen with many other more common 'advanced' cultures.

and even then, that spread for 'advancement' is usually accelerated if not begat, through conquest and dominion. we don't know of conquest playing MAJOR FACTORS in many ancient african cultures. BUUUT...BUUUUT...

we do know, thats how the aztecs grew..
we do know, thats how Rome grew..
we do know, thats how china grew..

these three peoples, had all their sh*t lined up to be ahead of their neighbors. thus giving them the upper edge, when demanding more trade!!! demanding more tribute!! demanding more artisans and laborers!! demanding more taxes!! everything they need, to divide their population up in ways suited for specialization!

which...

is exactly..

how their technological advancements..

thrive!

you speak of this whole issue, as if its-- a problem.
as i've told you in the past, england wouldn't have been what we know it as today, had it never been touched by Rome.. and eventually, roman inspired christianity. aka cathologicsm.

perhaps mali wouldn't have been what it was, had it not been for arabs and islam..??

thats life nlgga...

[freddiefourfingers]

^^
in reply to elemental

[freddiefourfingers]

!...NOT!

INTRODUCING SETI I, FATHER OF RAMSES II

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZPpZwPZH5w[/youtube]

-What nlgga??
Lemme see how my man Apophis feel about you draggin this white people shlt out..





ahh man.. i was dyin laughin as i did this.
thats an obviously BLACK american actor, who plays ancient egypts Apophis, on the Sci Fi channel's 'Stargate" series.. the character is supposedly 3-4 thousand years old. snatched up from ancient egypt. now he's a system lord.

i don't think the producers at Sci Fi network know he aint white.
u should email 'em some pictures of ramses and his pops!!

[3l3m3ntal]

!...NOT!

INTRODUCING SETI I, FATHER OF RAMSES II

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZPpZwPZH5w[/youtube]

-What nlgga??
Lemme see how my man Apophis feel about you draggin this white people shlt out..





ahh man.. i was dyin laughin as i did this.
thats an obviously BLACK american actor, who plays ancient egypts Apophis, on the Sci Fi channel's 'Stargate" series.. the character is supposedly 3-4 thousand years old. snatched up from ancient egypt. now he's a system lord.

i don't think the producers at Sci Fi network know he aint white.
u should email 'em some pictures of ramses and his pops!!

It's multi-culturalism at work. The agenda is to have a "happy rainbow society" and I don't mean gay either. Television is socially engineering us. The History Channel is really bad about multi-culturalism and not mention alot of the sources they use are often frowned upon by the academia at large with pseudo-history and fringe thinkers and milque toast history.

North Africa or Northern Africa is the northernmost region of the African continent, linked by the Sahara to Sub-Saharan Africa. Geopolitically, the UN definition of Northern Africa includes the following seven countries or territories; Algeria, Egypt, Libya, Morocco, Sudan, Tunisia, Mauritania, and Western Sahara. The Maghreb includes Algeria, Morocco, Tunisia, Maurtania, and Libya. The disputed territory Western Sahara (under Moroccan control) is generally included. North Africa generally is often included in common definitions of the Middle East, as both regions make up the Arab World. In addition, the Sinai Peninsula of Egypt is part of Asia, making Egypt a transcontinental country.

The distinction between Northern Africa and the rest of Africa is historically significant because of the effective barrier created by the Sahara. Throughout history this barrier has culturally separated the North from the rest of Africa and, as the seafaring civilizations of the Phoenecians, Greeks, Romans and others facilitated communication and migration across the Mediterranean, the cultures of North Africa became much more closely tied to Southwestern Asia and Europe than Sub-Saharan Africa.

Satellite Image of Africa and the mighty Sahara Desert and Nile delta & valley

Modern "red" Egyptian juxtoposed with ancient images

Collection of funny Egyptian Panda commercials
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_nAAwlD3bk[/youtube]

[BlackMagicDiamond]

Your against multicultualism? So you would rather be happy and claim that everything having to do with anything in history was White and that no one else took apart in any history Now I can see you have an agenda

[3l3m3ntal]

Your against multicultualism? So you would rather be happy and claim that everything having to do with anything in history was White and that no one else took apart in any history Now I can see you have an agenda

No, I would rather be raised and taught on real history not spoon fed sugar-coated, watered-down, and make sure we make everyone happy history (I've seen the adverse effects of that, you can believe you me). Like Roots for instance took the nation by storm, a historical television event, but it was all a hoax. The black author Alex Haley not only made up his family's history but completely plagiarized a white writer Harold Courlander and his novel, The African. But because of the public educational system and the images of Roots, it fails to tell the whole story of the African Trade and Africa's participation in the actual abductions and carrying civil wars in order to conquer and ENSLAVE instead perpetuated the story of Kunta Kinte upon American particularly African Americans.

[3l3m3ntal]

Your against multicultualism? So you would rather be happy and claim that everything having to do with anything in history was White and that no one else took apart in any history Now I can see you have an agenda

No, I would rather be raised and taught on real history not spoon fed sugar-coated, watered-down, and make sure we make everyone happy history (I've seen the adverse effects of that, you can believe you me). Like Roots for instance took the nation by storm, a historical television event, but it was all a hoax. The black author Alex Haley not only made up his family's history but completely plagiarized a white writer Harold Courlander and his novel, The African. But because of the public educational system and the images of Roots, it fails to tell the whole story of the African slave Trade and Africa's participation in the actual abductions and carrying out intra-tribal civil wars in order to conquer and ENSLAVE instead perpetuated the story of Kunta Kinte upon American particularly African Americans.

[BlackMagicDiamond]

Here you go again trying to discredit Black history. Man out of all the Neo Nazis I have talked to you have to be the most biggest propaganda and half truth people out there when it comes to history. Your idea of "real" history is discrediting everything Black people have created and has done for the world and your too paranoid to accept that fact and will go over and beyond to try to discredit Black history. Im starting to think that this dude has an inferiority complex for real. Hes probably mad because he knows that his time is done and that his way of thinking is old fashioned and a thing in the past. Hes a living walking antique

[3l3m3ntal]

:facepalm: Here you go again trying to discredit Black history. Man out of all the Neo Nazis I have talked to you have to be the most biggest propaganda and half truth people out there when it comes to history. Your idea of "real" history is discrediting everything Black people have created and has done for the world and your too paranoid to accept that fact and will go over and beyond to try to discredit Black history. Im starting to think that this dude has an inferiority complex for real. Hes probably mad because he knows that his time is done and that his way of thinking is old fashioned and a thing in the past. Hes a living walking antique

Read real history.

[3l3m3ntal]

Search the internet and scour your library like I instructed EEV.

http://www.eyewitnesstohistory.com/slavetrade.htm

Slave Trade: the African Connection, ca 1788

The labor-intensive agriculture of the New World demanded a large workforce. Crops such as sugar cane, tobacco and cotton required an unlimited and inexpensive supply of strong backs to assure timely production for the European market. Slaves from Africa offered the solution. The slave trade between Western Africa and the America's reached its peak in the mid-18th century when it is estimated that over 80,000 Africans annually crossed the Atlantic to spend the rest of their lives in chains. Of those who survived the voyage, the final destination of approximately 40% was the Caribbean Islands. Thirty-eight percent ended up in Brazil, 17% in Spanish America and 6% in the United States.


It was a lucrative business. A slave purchased on the African coast for the equivalent of 14 English pounds in bartered goods in 1760 could sell for 45 pounds in the American market.

A slave's journey to a life of servitude often began in the interior of Africa with his or her capture as a prize of war, as tribute given by a weak tribal state to a more powerful one, or by outright kidnapping by local traders. European slave traders rarely ventured beyond Africa's coastal regions. The African interior was riddled with disease, the natives were often hostile and the land uncharted. The Europeans preferred to stay in the coastal region and have the natives bring the slaves to them.

"Most of the Negroes shipped off from the coast of Africa are kidnapped."

Dr. Alexander Falconbridge served as the surgeon aboard a number of slave ships that plied their trade between the West African coast and the Caribbean in the late 1700s. He described his experiences in a popular book published in 1788. He became active in the Anti-Slavery Society and was appointed Governor of a colony established for freed slaves on the coast of modern-day Sierra Leone. His service was brief as he died in 1788 shortly after his appointment. We join his story as he describes the process through which the native African looses his freedom:



"There is great reason to believe, that most of the Negroes shipped off from the coast of Africa, are kidnapped. But the extreme care taken by the black traders to prevent the Europeans from gaining any intelligence of their modes of proceeding; the great distance inland from whence the Negroes are brought; and our ignorance of their language (with which, very frequently, the black traders themselves are equally unacquainted), prevent our obtaining such information on this head as we could wish. I have, however, by means of occasional inquiries, made through interpreters, procured some intelligence relative to the point. . . . From these I shall select the following striking instances: While I was in employ on board one of the slave ships, a Negro informed me that being one evening invited to drink with some of the black traders, upon his going away, they attempted to seize him. As he was very active, he evaded their design, and got out of their hands. He was, however, prevented from effecting his escape by a large dog, which laid hold of him, and compelled him to submit. These creatures are kept by many of the traders for that purpose; and being trained to the inhuman sport, they appear to be much pleased with it.

I was likewise told by a Negro woman that as she was on her return home, one evening, from some neighbors, to whom she had been making a visit by invitation, she was kidnapped; and, notwithstanding she was big with child, sold for a slave. This transaction happened a considerable way up the country, and she had passed through the hands of several purchasers before she reached the ship.

A man and his son, according to their own information, were seized by professed kidnappers, while they were planting yams, and sold for slaves. This likewise happened in the interior parts of the country, and after pass­ing through several hands, they were purchased for the ship to which I belonged. It frequently happens that those who kidnap others are themselves, in their turns, seized and sold.

. . . During my stay on the coast of Africa, I was an eye-witness of the following transaction: a black trader invited a Negro, who resided a lit­tle way up the country, to come and see him. After the entertainment was over, the trader proposed to his guest, to treat him with a sight of one of the ships lying in the river. The unsuspicious countryman read­ily consented, and accompanied the trader in a canoe to the side of the ship, which he viewed with pleasure and astonishment. While he was thus employed, some black traders on board, who appeared to be in the secret, leaped into the canoe, seized the unfortunate man, and dragging him into the ship, immediately sold him.

The preparations made at Bonny by the black traders, upon set­ting out for the fairs which are held up the country, are very consider­able. From twenty to thirty canoes, capable of containing thirty or forty Negroes each, are assembled for this purpose; and such goods put on board them as they expect will be wanted for the purchase of the number of slaves they intend to buy.

When their loading is com­pleted, they commence their voyage, with colors flying, and music playing; and in about ten or eleven days, they generally return to Bonny with full cargoes. As soon as the canoes arrive at the trader's landing place, the purchased Negroes are cleaned, and oiled with palm-oil; and on the following day they are exposed for sale to the captains.
A device used to control
unruly slaves

When the Negroes, whom the black traders have to dispose of, are shown to the European purchasers, they first examine them rela­tive to their age. They then minutely inspect their persons, and inquire into the state of their health, if they are afflicted with any infirmity, or are deformed, or have bad eyes or teeth; if they are lame, or weak in their joints, or distorted in the back, or of a slender make, or are narrow in the chest; in short, if they have been, or are afflicted in any manner, so as to render them incapable of much labor; if any of the foregoing defects are discovered in them, they are rejected. But if approved of, they are generally taken on board the ship the same evening. The purchaser has liberty to return on the following morning, but not afterwards, such as upon re-examination are found exceptionable.

The traders frequently beat those Negroes which are objected to by the captains, and use them with great severity. It matters not whether they are refused on account of age, illness, deformity, or for any other reason. At New Calabar, in particular . . . the traders, when any of their Negroes have been objected to, have dropped their canoes under the stern of the vessel, and instantly be headed them, in sight of the captain.

As soon as the wretched Africans, purchased at the fairs, fall into the hands of the black traders, they experience an earnest of those dreadful sufferings which they are doomed in future to undergo. . . . They are brought from the places where they are pur­chased to Bonny, etc. in canoes; at the bottom of which they lie, hav­ing their hands tied with a kind of willow twigs, and a strict watch is kept over them. Their usage in other respects, during the time of the passage, which generally lasts several days, is equally cruel. Their allowance of food is so scanty, that it is barely sufficient to support nature. They are, besides, much exposed to the violent rains which frequently fall here, being covered only with mats that afford but a slight defense; and as there is usually water at the bottom of the canoes, from their leaking, they are scarcely ever dry."

References:
This eyewitness account appears in Falconbridge, Alexander, An Account of the Slave Trade on the Coast of Africa (1788); Curtin, Phillip D. Atlantic Slave Trade (1969); Matheson, William Law, Great Britain and the Slave Trade, 1839-1865 (1967).

[BlackMagicDiamond]

See look at you, on this website trying to make your last efforts in order to save and preserve the White superiority agenda. The fact that you come on a website thats majority Black says it all. And what gives you the right to try to tell us about OUR history? How arrogent of you to try and act like you know more than us

[3l3m3ntal]

:facepalm: See look at you, on this website trying to make your last efforts in order to save and preserve the White superiority agenda. The fact that you come on a website thats majority Black says it all. And what gives you the right to try to tell us about OUR history? How arrogent of you to try and act like you know more than us

There is no arrogance about it. Hit the history books or internet that are unabashed about telling the real story. It is you that is trying to fit me into your lil box of "racism". You just don't like the other side of the coin when confronted with it.

[BlackMagicDiamond]

:facepalm: See look at you, on this website trying to make your last efforts in order to save and preserve the White superiority agenda. The fact that you come on a website thats majority Black says it all. And what gives you the right to try to tell us about OUR history? How arrogent of you to try and act like you know more than us

There is no arrogance about it. Hit the history books or internet that are unabashed about telling the real story. It is you that is trying to fit me into your lil box of "racism". You just don't like the other side of the coin when confronted with it.

No its YOU that doesnt like the other side of the coin. You always try to make it seem like Blacks were good for nothing but just doing slave work for everybody else and never having to do anything with history. Not once do you want to give credit for what Black people have done because its always White people who want glory for building everything and anyone that challenges is immedently labeled an "extremist" or "Afrocentric" Just face it, you cant compete and your threated. The truth speaks for itself

[3l3m3ntal]

:facepalm: See look at you, on this website trying to make your last efforts in order to save and preserve the White superiority agenda. The fact that you come on a website thats majority Black says it all. And what gives you the right to try to tell us about OUR history? How arrogent of you to try and act like you know more than us

There is no arrogance about it. Hit the history books or internet that are unabashed about telling the real story. It is you that is trying to fit me into your lil box of "racism". You just don't like the other side of the coin when confronted with it.

No its YOU that doesnt like the other side of the coin. You always try to make it seem like Blacks were good for nothing but just doing slave work for everybody else and never having to do anything with history. Not once do you want to give credit for what Black people have done because its always White people who want glory for building everything and anyone that challenges is immedently labeled an "extremist" or "Afrocentric" Just face it, you cant compete and your threated. The truth speaks for itself

Internet search "African slave trade", those precise words, in that precise order.

I am defending the Egyptians and their heritage, yes. What's wrong with that?

[BlackMagicDiamond]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uI4WS2Rak9Q&feature=channel_video_title[/youtube]

[3l3m3ntal]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uI4WS2Rak9Q&feature=channel_video_title[/youtube]

What a load of bull! 12 million African slaves were shipped across the Atlantic. 12 MILLION!

[3l3m3ntal]

Yes, white are superior because African have an endless amount of naivete. ;)

[3l3m3ntal]

And an estimated 28-30 million African slaves (IRRC) were shipped to Arabian countries. But not only that 90% or so DIED along the journey on the MIDDLE PASSAGE.



Don't you get it? You're preposterous.

[BlackMagicDiamond]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uI4WS2Rak9Q&feature=channel_video_title[/youtube]

What a load of bull! 12 million African slaves were shipped across the Atlantic. 12 MILLION!

LOL SEE THATS WHAT I MEAN YOU ARE EXTREMELY HELLBENT AND OBESSED OVER OUR HISTORY THAT YOU GO AROUND SPREADING MORE LIES I BET YOU DONT EVEN HAVE A JOB OR A LIFE YOU JUST DEDICATE YOUR LIFE ON THIS WEBSITE DEFENDING A LIE AND THE FACT THAT AFRICANS WERE ALREADY IN SLAVED LIKE THE DUDE SAID IT WAS A HUGE DIFFERENCE THE AMERICAN SLAVE TRADE WAS EXTREMELY BARBARIC AND THEY TREATED THE AFRICANS LIKE ANIMALS NOT NOT ONLY THAT IT WAS A LITERALLY MENTAL BRAIN RAPE TO DEHUMANIZE PEOPLE WHICH HAD A HUGE PSYCHOLOGICAL AFFECT ON NOT ONLY BLACKS BUT PEOPLE OF COLOR UNDER THE WORLD AND YOU DONT WANNA ACCEPT THIS FACT YOU WOULD RATHER DEFEND THOSE THAT DID THESE TYPES OF THINGS

[3l3m3ntal]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uI4WS2Rak9Q&feature=channel_video_title[/youtube]

What a load of bull! 12 million African slaves were shipped across the Atlantic. 12 MILLION!

LOL SEE THATS WHAT I MEAN YOU ARE EXTREMELY HELLBENT AND OBESSED OVER OUR HISTORY THAT YOU GO AROUND SPREADING MORE LIES I BET YOU DONT EVEN HAVE A JOB OR A LIFE YOU JUST DEDICATE YOUR LIFE ON THIS WEBSITE DEFENDING A LIE AND THE FACT THAT AFRICANS WERE ALREADY IN SLAVED LIKE THE DUDE SAID IT WAS A HUGE DIFFERENCE THE AMERICAN SLAVE TRADE WAS EXTREMELY BARBARIC AND THEY TREATED THE AFRICANS LIKE ANIMALS NOT NOT ONLY THAT IT WAS A LITERALLY MENTAL BRAIN RAPE TO DEHUMANIZE PEOPLE WHICH HAD A HUGE PSYCHOLOGICAL AFFECT ON NOT ONLY BLACKS BUT PEOPLE OF COLOR UNDER THE WORLD AND YOU DONT WANNA ACCEPT THIS FACT YOU WOULD RATHER DEFEND THOSE THAT DID THESE TYPES OF THINGS

Um... you still don't get... do you?

Oh and uh... slavery still occurs today in Africa... chattel slavery.

[3l3m3ntal]

The Trans-Atlantic slave trade shipped 11-12 million slaves, an estimated 10% died in passage.

14 centuries of the Islamic slave trade could be an estimated 180 million but 28 million made it to East African and Middle Eastern slave markets to be shipped across the Red Sea or Indian Ocean. 80-90% died in passage estimated 112-140+ million.

And you are telling Africans were clueless. House niggas, clearout blue special. You saying Africans have about as much wits as stone and about as sharp as a plank of wood.

[freddiefourfingers]

It's multi-culturalism at work. The agenda is to have a "happy rainbow society" and I don't mean gay either. Television is socially engineering us. The History Channel is really bad about multi-culturalism and not mention alot of the sources they use are often frowned upon by the academia at large with pseudo-history and fringe thinkers and milque toast history.

Modern "red" Egyptian juxtoposed with ancient images

-actually, you're probably right on that one! happy rainbow society. the sy fy network has undertaken some steps to being culturally inclusive with some of their programmin. using women in strong positions, black military leaders, etc. had edward james olmos (a mexican) as admiral adama on battlestar galactica. one of my fav. phukkin shows on that network!!

hollywood has a history of distorting reality. in different ways. so i'll agree with that. for example, last year we had 'Night at the Museum.' Which starred Hank Azaria from Queens NY, playing the role of a pharoah!! Him and his other obviously european white guest stars, were supposed to be egyptians. from pharaonic egypt.

take a look;


and again;


now lets juxtapose THAT, to the pictures you've just thrown out there of "reddish" egyptians. egyptians with my actual color complexion. lets see;



something aint right here!!

and let us not forget, the historical view of ancient egyptians;



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that always kills me.. we can probably go over a dozen or so other examples of over exaggerrations of ancient egyptian whiteness and/or likeness to europeans. despite their depictions of themselves, and the photos either I or any of the others have posted of some modern day egyptians.

but i gotta give you props for FINALLY googling pictures of egyptians, without filtering specifically for light skinned people as you've been doing in the past e-searches. posting up all them pics of pale people. and obviously WHITE people, like the cleopatra joint u had a while ago in another topic.

nowwww... u wanna hop on the reddish browned bandwagon. lol.. good shlt playa.
there's hope for you yet!

[BlackMagicDiamond]

Man this dude, have you ever read his sources? All of his sources are all outdated and were written in the 1840s which is the same period that the Atlanic Slave Trade was going on and when racism was at its finest back then. But all you got to do is look at the art and you can clearly see that they had Black in them. I mean unless your stupid then its not hard.



Iman Bowie is East African and she looks just like Queen Neferiti in the bust I posted. And their trying to claim here to be a White woman? I dont think so

[BlackMagicDiamond]

Sorry about that yall

[POOKGDOO74]

SEE THIS IS WHAT I LIKE TRUE HISTORY.I CHOPPED IT UP WITH SOME WEST AFRICAN NIGGAZ. THE SAID ONE OF THE MAIN REASONS NIGGAZ LEFT EGPT/SUDAN WAS BECAUSE OF ARABS THE SAID THE WHOLE SAHARA WAS SUDANIC THE TRIBES WHO ANCESTERS FROM THE EAST,MANDE MANDINGO,IBO,HAUSE,MOSSI,FULANI,WOLF,BAMBARA,BOZO,GOLA,SONIKE,AND BERBERS AND CENTRAL AFRICANS ESCAPING ARAB SLAVE TRADE ALL WERE SOLD IN SLAVERY 2 EUROPEANS.BUT THE MOSTLY WERE SUDANIC.WHILE THE THE MUSLIMS SOLD THEY SLAVES 2 ARABS,AND JEWS IN THE NORTH WHEN THE HUTUS KILLED THE TUTSIS IN RWANDA THA CHANTED TO THEM GO BACK TO EYGPT.

[3l3m3ntal]

BlackMagicDiamond, you do realize those aren't the Nefertiti bust.

But inaccurate CGI and actress composites. NOT THE REAL DEAL.

HERE IS THE REAL NEFERTITI BUST







THAT'S NOT NEGROID YOU SAD LIL GIRL!

[3l3m3ntal]

I love the angle and shadowing of that last pic especially.

[3l3m3ntal]

Man this dude, have you ever read his sources? All of his sources are all outdated and were written in the 1840s which is the same period that the Atlanic Slave Trade was going on and when racism was at its finest back then. But all you got to do is look at the art and you can clearly see that they had Black in them. I mean unless your stupid then its not hard.



Iman Bowie is East African and she looks just like Queen Neferiti in the bust I posted. And their trying to claim here to be a White woman? I dont think so

East Africans such as Somalians and Ethiopians are 40% Eurasian.

[BlackMagicDiamond]

Actually the photo that I posted was a computer reconstuction of Queen Nefiriti

Could this be the profile of a queen?
By Tim Friend, USA TODAY
Is this Nefertiti? Two months ago, a team of Egyptologists led by British scientist Joann Fletcher of the University of York announced that a neglected mummy collecting dust in a nondescript tomb was actually that of ancient Egypt's most famous female ruler.

This image shows a computer reconstruction of what is believed to be the face of Nefertiti.
Discovery Channel handout

In an effort to confirm her identity, two British experts have applied their forensic skills to digital X-rays of the skull. (Related graphic: Reconstructing Nefertiti)

Neither Damian Schofield of Nottingham University nor Martin Evison of Sheffield University knew in advance the identity of their "victim." They specialize in reconstructing human faces from skulls for murder cases in which the victim is unknown.

Schofield and Evison created a 3-D computer mesh of the skull, then placed a series of markers to designate where tissue would be added. Next, they added facial muscles to give the face its full depth and contour. Finally, a graphic artist added skin texture, eye color, lips and the crown.

Nefertiti: Her life and death

Nefertiti married Pharaoh Akhenaten while still a teen or perhaps a pre-adolescent. Hieroglyphs depict her demure as the young bride.
But during the reign of Akhenaten, she grew more powerful. Both king and queen were hated for forcing the long-reigning Amun priest class into the unemployment line.
The king died under suspicious circumstances. Nefertiti died three years later of unknown causes.






Schofield and Evison say the reconstruction does not prove the skull belongs to Nefertiti. But they were surprised at the similarities with Nefertiti's bust, which was made during her lifetime and is displayed at the Egyptian Museum in Berlin.

Says Fletcher: "I was bowled over by it, to be honest. The face is that of a very strong individual indeed. She has such a beautiful profile. She is stunning."

Nefertiti's image is one of the most popular today from ancient Egypt. But the real queen was hated by Egyptian society after her reign ended. An unusually powerful queen, she reigned with her husband, Akhenaten, who ruled from 1352 to 1336 B.C., during the late 18th dynasty. Nefertiti may have ruled as pharaoh for three years after his death.

Nefertiti vanished from Egyptian history with no trace of a royal tomb or evidence of a burial.
http://images.usatoday.com/news/_photos ... inside.jpg

Done by WHITE people

[3l3m3ntal]

Sorry lil girl, Nefertiti got a shoddy multi-culti makeover

[BlackMagicDiamond]

So what? They still look the same to me. Your just mad because it doesn't fit your so called "White Egyptian" description LOL read it and weep and I like the way you use that word "multiculturalism" it just reveals your true colors and what kind of person you are

[3l3m3ntal]

So what? They still look the same to me. Your just mad because it doesn't fit your so called "White Egyptian" description LOL read it and weep and I like the way you use that word "multiculturalism" it just reveals your true colors and what kind of person you are

But why does the bust have caucasoid features and likewise the mummies caucasoid skulls! There is no reading and weeping. You don't even know what I mean by multi-culti.

I LOVE THIS PIC!

[mikestone]

It also falls into the context of history, prof. Besides Sudan (Nubia the "black Egypt", and parts of the Horn of Africa, East Africa), sub-Saharan Africans weren't advanced architects and were illiterate (no script or hieroglyphs). Sub-Saharan Africans didn't start building architectures until the Middle Ages and I have a gut-feeling that is because of the Arabic influences infiltrating the area and began advancing the sub-Saharan Africans.

There is a complete utter lack of advanced civilizations (ie Sumeria, Babylon, Persia, Assyria, Levant, China, India, Rome, Greece, Egypt, Carthage, Mayan, Incan, Aztec, etc, etc) in sub-Saharan Africa. Sub-Saharan Africa doesn't have a Bronze age either. They leaped from the Stone age to the Iron age (Middle Ages).

Your comments are completely disingenious, be for real. You must be overlooking civilizations such as Great Zimbabwe, Aksum, Ghana Empire, the Mali Empire, Songhai Empire, Kingdom of Nri, the Kanem Empire and the Bornu Empire. Not to mention the Nok culture in Nigeria in 1000 BC.

And you must not of heard of Nilotic and Bantu languages that existed in Sub Saharan Africa. Hardly illiterate my friend. Bantu language is over 3ooo years old lol...

[freddiefourfingers]

East Africans such as Somalians and Ethiopians are 40% Eurasian.

-but they're still black...
very..
black..

[MoNDaY]

THIS IS THE FIRST PHARAOH OF EGPYT..PHARAOH NAMER...WOW LOOK AT THAT EUROPEAN NOSE LOL !...NOT

Nigga, That's Mannie Fresh

[CPTHAMMA]

THIS IS THE FIRST PHARAOH OF EGPYT..PHARAOH NAMER...WOW LOOK AT THAT EUROPEAN NOSE LOL !...NOT

Nigga, That's Mannie Fresh

[3l3m3ntal]

It also falls into the context of history, prof. Besides Sudan (Nubia the "black Egypt", and parts of the Horn of Africa, East Africa), sub-Saharan Africans weren't advanced architects and were illiterate (no script or hieroglyphs). Sub-Saharan Africans didn't start building architectures until the Middle Ages and I have a gut-feeling that is because of the Arabic influences infiltrating the area and began advancing the sub-Saharan Africans.

There is a complete utter lack of advanced civilizations (ie Sumeria, Babylon, Persia, Assyria, Levant, China, India, Rome, Greece, Egypt, Carthage, Mayan, Incan, Aztec, etc, etc) in sub-Saharan Africa. Sub-Saharan Africa doesn't have a Bronze age either. They leaped from the Stone age to the Iron age (Middle Ages).

Your comments are completely disingenious, be for real. You must be overlooking civilizations such as Great Zimbabwe, Aksum, Ghana Empire, the Mali Empire, Songhai Empire, Kingdom of Nri, the Kanem Empire and the Bornu Empire. Not to mention the Nok culture in Nigeria in 1000 BC.

And you must not of heard of Nilotic and Bantu languages that existed in Sub Saharan Africa. Hardly illiterate my friend. Bantu language is over 3ooo years old lol...

I never overlooked those kingdoms they fall under the Middle Ages roughly 400-1500 CE (common era) or the 5th-15th centuries. Sure all peoples of sub-Saharan Africa could speak and had languages BUT they didn't have an alphabet and couldn't write. Their alphabet and writing systems are ALL derivatives of European and Arabian writing systems especially Latin and Arabic alphabets are the most predominate.

They could speak and communicate, they just couldn't write as they were oral traditionalists. Which makes sub-Saharan African history hard to reconstruct as they didn't leave a record of themselves like ahem the Egyptians did.

This includes the Ethiopian Ge'ez derivative of Sabaean or Old South Arabian, and the Nubian/Kush/Mero Meroitic script is derivative of Egyptian hieroglyphs and Demotic Egyptian.

That's one reason I and many others don't believe the ancient Egyptians were negroid but rather Mediterrean African or North African. There is no pyramids or ziggurats in sub-Saharan Africa neither is there hieroglyphs, cuneiforms, or scripts. There's no proto-Egyptian or CRADLE of Egypt civilizations in sub-Saharan. Why?

[BlackMagicDiamond]

It also falls into the context of history, prof. Besides Sudan (Nubia the "black Egypt", and parts of the Horn of Africa, East Africa), sub-Saharan Africans weren't advanced architects and were illiterate (no script or hieroglyphs). Sub-Saharan Africans didn't start building architectures until the Middle Ages and I have a gut-feeling that is because of the Arabic influences infiltrating the area and began advancing the sub-Saharan Africans.

There is a complete utter lack of advanced civilizations (ie Sumeria, Babylon, Persia, Assyria, Levant, China, India, Rome, Greece, Egypt, Carthage, Mayan, Incan, Aztec, etc, etc) in sub-Saharan Africa. Sub-Saharan Africa doesn't have a Bronze age either. They leaped from the Stone age to the Iron age (Middle Ages).

Your comments are completely disingenious, be for real. You must be overlooking civilizations such as Great Zimbabwe, Aksum, Ghana Empire, the Mali Empire, Songhai Empire, Kingdom of Nri, the Kanem Empire and the Bornu Empire. Not to mention the Nok culture in Nigeria in 1000 BC.

And you must not of heard of Nilotic and Bantu languages that existed in Sub Saharan Africa. Hardly illiterate my friend. Bantu language is over 3ooo years old lol...

I never overlooked those kingdoms they fall under the Middle Ages roughly 400-1500 CE (common era) or the 5th-15th centuries. Sure all peoples of sub-Saharan Africa could speak and had languages BUT they didn't have an alphabet and couldn't write. Their alphabet and writing systems are ALL derivatives of European and Arabian writing systems especially Latin and Arabic alphabets are the most predominate.

They could speak and communicate, they just couldn't write as they were oral traditionalists. Which makes sub-Saharan African history hard to reconstruct as they didn't leave a record of themselves like ahem the Egyptians did.

This includes the Ethiopian Ge'ez derivative of Sabaean or Old South Arabian, and the Nubian/Kush/Mero Meroitic script is derivative of Egyptian hieroglyphs and Demotic Egyptian.

That's one reason I and many others don't believe the ancient Egyptians were negroid but rather Mediterrean African or North African. There is no pyramids or ziggurats in sub-Saharan Africa neither is there hieroglyphs, cuneiforms, or scripts. There's no proto-Egyptian or CRADLE of Egypt civilizations in sub-Saharan. Why?

[NUAFRAKANRBG]

I AINT EVEN GON POST NO WORDS MANE!

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSs3C9PZ6-8&feature=player_embedded[/youtube]

[3l3m3ntal]

I AINT EVEN GON POST NO WORDS MANE!

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSs3C9PZ6-8&feature=player_embedded[/youtube]

OWNED IN 6:31 FLAT, EGYPTIAN MUMMY SKULLS COMPARED TO CAUCASOID VS NEGOID SKULLS. NEGROIDS DO NOT HAVE CAUCASOID PHENOTYPES, CRANIO FACIAL TRAITS, OR HAIR
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgzJlTID1AM[/youtube]

[Bud102g]

Element, you're wasting your time here. None of these people, including Freddie(as slightly intelligent as he appears) have the remotest understanding of anything you're posting.

[MISTERNYC]

WELL SINCE YOU ARE SO HELL BENT ON HISTORY U DO KNOW THAT A LOT OF THE PHARAOHS FROM THOSE DAYS CONQUERED OTHER CIVILIZATIONS AND HAD MIXED RACE KIDS SO EVEN IF THE KIDS CAME OUT LIGHT IT WOULDN'T SURPRISE ME BUT TO DISCREDIT THE FACT THAT THE BLOOD LINE WAS NEGRO BLOODLINE IS CRAZY AND WESTERN MADNESS

[MISTERNYC]

'Fake' claims over Nefertiti bust
Queen Nefertiti
The bust is one of Berlin's top tourist attractions

The famous bust of Queen Nefertiti believed to be 3,400 years old could be a fake, according to an art historian.

Henri Stierlin, who has studied the subject for 25 years, claims the bust of the Egyptian beauty is a 1912 copy.

He suggests it was made on the orders of German archaeologist Ludwig Borchardt, who is credited with finding the treasure on the banks of the Nile.

A spokesperson for the Neues Museum in Berlin, where the bust is housed, was not available for comment.

Egypt has demanded the return of the bust since it went on display in Berlin in 1923.

Swiss-born Stierlin, the author of several books on Egypt and the Middle East, said: "It seems increasingly improbable that the bust is an original."

Courage

Stierlin said Borchardt had hoped to produce a new portrait of the queen wearing a necklace he knew she had owned and also carry out a colour test with ancient pigments found at the digs.

But when the copy went on display in December 1912, it was much admired as an original work by a German prince and the archaeologist "couldn't sum up the courage to ridicule" his guests, Stierlin said.

The historian said he based his findings on several points, including the fact the bust has no left eye, which "is an insult for an ancient Egyptian who believed the statue was the person".

He also said the shoulders were cut vertically while Egyptians cut shoulders horizontally, and that Nefertiti's facial features were accentuated in a manner resembling an Art Nouveau style.

Written accounts

Stierlin claimed it was impossible to scientifically date the bust because it was made of stone covered in plaster, whereas the pigments were "really ancient"

And he said French archaeologists present at the dig never mentioned the find, nor did contemporary written accounts.

Stierlin added that the archaeologist "didn't even bother to supply a description, which is amazing for an exceptional work found intact".

But earlier this year, newly-published documents suggested Borchardt used trickery to smuggle the bust back to Germany.

According to those documents, he listed the bust among his finds in Egypt, but described it as a worthless piece of gypsum and hid it in a box.

The Neues Museum, which is currently closed, will reopen in October, with a new room for Queen Nefertiti's bust.


U DO KNOW THAT THAT BUST AS FOUND BY A GERMAN GUY AROUND ALL THIS NAZI SHIT GOING ON SO IT WOULDN'T SURPRISE ME THAT THEY ANT TO DISCREDIT US BLACKS

[freddiefourfingers]

Element, you're wasting your time here. None of these people, including Freddie(as slightly intelligent as he appears) have the remotest understanding of anything you're posting.

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[freddiefourfingers]

feel free to jump in..
i'll school you too.

[Bud102g]

School me? I'm still waiting for your reply to that other thread. You know, the one where you accidently forget what craniometry was?

WELL SINCE YOU ARE SO HELL BENT ON HISTORY U DO KNOW THAT A LOT OF THE PHARAOHS FROM THOSE DAYS CONQUERED OTHER CIVILIZATIONS AND HAD MIXED RACE KIDS SO EVEN IF THE KIDS CAME OUT LIGHT IT WOULDN'T SURPRISE ME BUT TO DISCREDIT THE FACT THAT THE BLOOD LINE WAS NEGRO BLOODLINE IS CRAZY AND WESTERN MADNESS

And what civilizations did they conquer? Nubia, Hyksos, the Amazigh, etc. The only people they conquered and mixed with to any extent that were actually Black are the Nubians. Egyptians today are a perfect representation of what the ancient Egyptians were as well; and they are Mediterannean Caucasoid people much like Italians, Greeks or Iranians.

[freddiefourfingers]

dictionary.com..

done..

double check