WHOSE GANG HISTORY IS MORE BRUTAL AND GRIMEY LOS ANGELES OR CHICAGO?

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Post by BarefaceBlaine » January 15th, 2017, 4:32 am

imma have to give this one to LA.. dont get me wrong Chicago was on it as far as getting money and moving like a mafia, but the bloods and crips have a legacy of violence that have made them the most notorious african american street gangs even in the 70s these niggas was on types of bullshit funeral shootings, tipping caskets over, even chopping mf'z up, :shrug:

[youtube]<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/CK8mgekVbt8" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>[/youtube]

story of a 62 brim nigga gettin his casket titled over by some Crip niggas and also disrespecting the body

[youtube]<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/CK8mgekVbt8" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>[/youtube]

story of how a nigga got chopped up by some Eight Tray gangster crips

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Post by BarefaceBlaine » January 15th, 2017, 4:36 am

TM_SAVAGE wrote:imma have to give this one to LA.. dont get me wrong Chicago was on it as far as getting money and moving like a mafia, but the bloods and crips have a legacy of violence that have made them the most notorious african american street gangs even in the 70s these niggas was on types of bullshit funeral shootings, tipping caskets over, even chopping mf'z up, :shrug:

[youtube]<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/CK8mgekVbt8" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>[/youtube]

story of a 62 brim nigga gettin his casket titled over by some Crip niggas and also disrespecting the body

[youtube]<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/CK8mgekVbt8" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>[/youtube]

story of how a nigga got chopped up by some Eight Tray gangster crips
[youtube]<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/CK8mgekVbt8" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>[/youtube]

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Post by MurdaWoodz438 » January 15th, 2017, 6:37 am

A police officer describing how Black P. Stones would flip a Disciple out of their casket and shoot them @13:08

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I think both were brutal and grimey. I can't comfortably pick one over the other.

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Post by Quiet-Q » January 15th, 2017, 6:44 am

Chicago is eaatcoast grimey with a central time zone a no brainer....l.a never came off as grimey to me even when niggahs back then was catching bodies like crazy rip to the fallen though

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Post by MONSOON » January 15th, 2017, 6:46 am

I'd say the nations they were putting the murder gang down in the 60's a old nigga from Ms said when he left the chi in the 60's and went to L.A. you didn't hear about gangs like you did in the chi bk then.plus the mobs be on some shit.. changing their own etc I rarely hear about L.A. niggas killing niggas from their deck :tiphat:

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Post by Fuckcambodians » January 15th, 2017, 6:48 am

Q. wrote:Chicago is eaatcoast grimey with a central time zone a no brainer....l.a never came off as grimey to me even when niggahs back then was catching bodies like crazy rip to the fallen though
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Post by MONSOON » January 15th, 2017, 6:50 am

[quote="MONSOON"]I'd say the nations they were putting the murder gang down in the 60's a old nigga from Ms said when he left the chi in the 60's and went to L.A. you didn't hear about gangs like you did in the chi bk then.plus the mobs be on some shit.. changing their own etc I rarely hear about L.A. niggas killing niggas from their deck :tiphat:[/quote]

Putting the murder gang down*

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Post by Fuckcambodians » January 15th, 2017, 6:51 am

jeff fort did the most grimiest shit ever as a chief, most folks I talk to no matter how they feel about bpsn or beefin with em ,always give fort his kredit :lmao: killing off his own kind, disciples and the laws :ohlawd: and tried to be a terrorist ..

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Post by BarefaceBlaine » January 15th, 2017, 7:00 am

MurdaWoodz438 wrote:A police officer describing how Black P. Stones would flip a Disciple out of their casket and shoot them @13:08

[youtube]<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/cJZAlGpRQ6o" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>[/youtube]

I think both were brutal and grimey. I can't comfortably pick one over the other.
any proof or documented police reports of gang related funeral drive bys, or any other extra grimey retaliation stories? :shrug: not saying this shit aint happen i just wanna see some proof

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Chicago got bodies thats no doubt but im sayin niggas being mad disrespectful to their enemies, thats more of a california thing you never hear of any bizare acts of executed street beef going on over there not saying shit like that never happened out there but they more of on they business type shit they actively bangin on another nigga set

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Post by MurdaWoodz438 » January 15th, 2017, 7:34 am

TM_SAVAGE wrote:
MurdaWoodz438 wrote:A police officer describing how Black P. Stones would flip a Disciple out of their casket and shoot them @13:08

[youtube]<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/cJZAlGpRQ6o" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>[/youtube]

I think both were brutal and grimey. I can't comfortably pick one over the other.
any proof or documented police reports of gang related funeral drive bys, or any other extra grimey retaliation stories? :shrug: not saying this shit aint happen i just wanna see some proof

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Chicago got bodies thats no doubt but im sayin niggas being mad disrespectful to their enemies, thats more of a california thing you never hear of any bizare acts of executed street beef going on over there not saying shit like that never happened out there but they more of on they business type shit they actively bangin on another nigga set
You trippin hruh. Both cities get down on the retaliation tip. It be all type of funeral shootings in CHI and LA. I'll post some from Chicago in a minute.

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Post by CONFIDENTIAL » January 15th, 2017, 7:44 am

CHICAGO HANDS DOWN! CHICAGO BLACK GANGS ARE OLDER AND WERE MORE ORGANIZED, AND WHEN IT COMES TO DISRESPECT THIS NEW GENERATION IS THE DEFINITION OF DISRESPECT. CHIEF KEEF MADE "SMOKING ON TOOKA" A TREND, AND THATS A DEAD HOMIE! CALI AINT NEVER DID NOTHING LIKE THAT ON A NATIONAL SCALE.

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Post by PedikoBrim59 » January 15th, 2017, 7:47 am

Officer Up here would know this nigga mans all meet up at the Dunkin' Donuts before and after shift

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Post by 123 » January 15th, 2017, 7:59 am

Who goes the hardest? That's easy, LOS!

Homicides in 1992 Set Record for L.A. County : Violence: 2,589 killings in 1992 represent an 8% rise over previous year. Cultural changes and accessibility of guns cited as factors.
Rocked by gang violence, civil unrest and a proliferation of lethal weapons, 1992 was the deadliest year in Los Angeles County history, officials said Monday.

Last year's 2,589 homicides, based on a tally by the Los Angeles County coroner's office, was up about 8% from the year before and represented enough slain people to fill the downtown Ahmanson Theatre to more than capacity.

Authorities, however, were not entirely surprised by the numbers, which had been foreshadowed by a summer so bloody it set records of its own, with 517 murders in July and August alone.

"I don't know what accounts for it," said coroner's spokesman Scott Carrier. "We were optimistic things would subside when the (black) gangs called a truce, but that didn't seem to happen."
Among other things, authorities said, the toll reflects unprecedented mayhem in the city of Los Angeles--where 1,063 people were slain through Dec. 21. That figure was well above the total for 1991.

But criminologists say other, larger, factors are also at work, ranging from cultural changes that have broadened the opportunities for crime overall to the accessibility of guns.

"Yes, we have a lot of homicides," said USC criminologist Marcus Felson. "But that's been true for some time."

Los Angeles County's homicide rate generally has been on the rise for at least the past 20 years, statistics show. In 1970, the county had 10.2 homicides per 100,000 residents. By 1980, which for most of the decade stood as the county's most violent year, the homicide rate was 24.4 killings per 100,000 residents.

For several years, the rate dipped, but it surged up again in 1991. Last year's rate marked yet another record, 28 per 100,000 residents.

The numbers include not only the many people who are beaten, shot or stabbed to death, but those who die as the result of vehicular manslaughter. Gang violence is part of the story, but not as big a part as many suspect: According to LAPD statistics, for instance, only about a third of the city's homicides this year were gang-related. The spring's rioting played a part, contributing 52 deaths, but so, too, did hundreds of far-less-publicized slayings in homes and on streets countywide.

But Felson says there may be overarching trends as well--not the least of them the proliferation of guns.

"Homicide is just a fistfight when you have a gun in your fist," Felson said. "There's no indication that the person who, say, hits someone, is any less angry than the person who shoots someone. We just have much better weapons for people to grab when they're angry than we used to."

Additionally, Felson said, societal changes have opened broader opportunities for crime overall. Burglaries are much easier and more tempting now than they were a generation ago, for instance, because televisions, radios and other gadgets are so much lighter and easier to carry off. Women, too, are more at risk because they are dispersed in the job market, rather than congregated in neighborhoods, he said.

These and other factors, he said, helped boost the national crime rate by some 400% between the 1960s and the 1980s--a trend that was echoed in Los Angeles, and that police are continuing to study.

"It's a little premature for us to analyze the numbers, but even without a full accounting for the number of murders in the city, they're astronomical," said Los Angeles Police Department Cmdr. David Gascon.

"What's significant is that each of those numbers represents a human being," Gascon said. "And numbers like that are clearly staggering."

http://articles.latimes.com/1993-01-05/ ... les-county

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Post by True Words » January 15th, 2017, 8:18 am

Q. wrote:Chicago is eaatcoast grimey with a central time zone a no brainer....l.a never came off as grimey to me even when niggahs back then was catching bodies like crazy rip to the fallen though
Why u mad at Cali for??

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Post by Quiet-Q » January 15th, 2017, 8:22 am

True Words wrote:
Q. wrote:Chicago is eaatcoast grimey with a central time zone a no brainer....l.a never came off as grimey to me even when niggahs back then was catching bodies like crazy rip to the fallen though
Why u mad at Cali for??

Cali? Or just the city of l.a ?(since i hardly mention any other city in cali other then to big up the bay)...i always looked at the bay area as eastcoast minded niggahs (about they hustle 1st) living in a westcoast time zone ..dont got nothing personal against l.a just never been caught up with the hype over the city

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Post by PmoneY » January 15th, 2017, 8:31 am

Chicago gangs in tha beginning was on some postitive clean up tha community shit,Vice lordz marching with Dr king and of course it's a huge Black Muslim culture in Chicago.

L.A Crip gangs started on some let's take over hood to hood,state to state and sell dope across the country.
No Black organization or unity like Chicago mobs.

Still Chicago was going hard in tha 70s when Black L.A gangs was in tha 1st stages of tha B vs C war....

But tha 80s & 90s L.A was another level,Something never to be seen again..And than of course tha worst uprising ever in 1992....

What came out of Chicago gang wars was real live mafia type shit,Organized homicides in a city that put up 900 murders in it's peak...So shit they both grimey.....

L.A got tha slight edge kuz race wars came from tha grimy shit out here....Hispanics vs Blacks/Hispanics vs Asians

White boys & Mexicans vs Blacks in Prison type madness

@True Words,Q hate L.A lol

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Post by MONSOON » January 15th, 2017, 8:32 am

[quote="562-310-KILLA"]Who goes the hardest? That's easy, LOS!

Homicides in 1992 Set Record for L.A. County : Violence: [size=200][b]2,589 killings[/b][/size] in 1992 represent an 8% rise over previous year. Cultural changes and accessibility of guns cited as factors.
Rocked by gang violence, civil unrest and a proliferation of lethal weapons, 1992 was the deadliest year in Los Angeles County history, officials said Monday.

Last year's [b][size=200]2,589 homicides[/size][/b], based on a tally by the Los Angeles County coroner's office, was up about 8% from the year before and represented enough slain people to fill the downtown Ahmanson Theatre to more than capacity.

Authorities, however, were not entirely surprised by the numbers, which had been foreshadowed by a summer so bloody it set records of its own, with 517 murders in July and August alone.

"I don't know what accounts for it," said coroner's spokesman Scott Carrier. "We were optimistic things would subside when the (black) gangs called a truce, but that didn't seem to happen."
Among other things, authorities said, the toll reflects unprecedented mayhem in the city of Los Angeles--where 1,063 people were slain through Dec. 21. That figure was well above the total for 1991.

But criminologists say other, larger, factors are also at work, ranging from cultural changes that have broadened the opportunities for crime overall to the accessibility of guns.

"Yes, we have a lot of homicides," said USC criminologist Marcus Felson. "But that's been true for some time."

Los Angeles County's homicide rate generally has been on the rise for at least the past 20 years, statistics show. In 1970, the county had 10.2 homicides per 100,000 residents. By 1980, which for most of the decade stood as the county's most violent year, the homicide rate was 24.4 killings per 100,000 residents.

For several years, the rate dipped, but it surged up again in 1991. Last year's rate marked yet another record, 28 per 100,000 residents.

The numbers include not only the many people who are beaten, shot or stabbed to death, but those who die as the result of vehicular manslaughter. Gang violence is part of the story, but not as big a part as many suspect: According to LAPD statistics, for instance, only about a third of the city's homicides this year were gang-related. The spring's rioting played a part, contributing 52 deaths, but so, too, did hundreds of far-less-publicized slayings in homes and on streets countywide.

But Felson says there may be overarching trends as well--not the least of them the proliferation of guns.

"Homicide is just a fistfight when you have a gun in your fist," Felson said. "There's no indication that the person who, say, hits someone, is any less angry than the person who shoots someone. We just have much better weapons for people to grab when they're angry than we used to."

Additionally, Felson said, societal changes have opened broader opportunities for crime overall. Burglaries are much easier and more tempting now than they were a generation ago, for instance, because televisions, radios and other gadgets are so much lighter and easier to carry off. Women, too, are more at risk because they are dispersed in the job market, rather than congregated in neighborhoods, he said.

These and other factors, he said, helped boost the national crime rate by some 400% between the 1960s and the 1980s--a trend that was echoed in Los Angeles, and that police are continuing to study.

"It's a little premature for us to analyze the numbers, but even without a full accounting for the number of murders in the city, they're astronomical," said Los Angeles Police Department Cmdr. David Gascon.

"What's significant is that each of those numbers represents a human being," Gascon said. "And numbers like that are clearly staggering."

[url]http://articles.latimes.com/1993-01-05/ ... les-county[/url]

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Those are numbers for L.A. county not L.A. ...That would be interesting though to see the crime rate adding in the woodz chi heights etc.

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Post by 123 » January 15th, 2017, 8:37 am

MONSOON wrote:
562-310-KILLA wrote:Who goes the hardest? That's easy, LOS!

Homicides in 1992 Set Record for L.A. County : Violence: 2,589 killings in 1992 represent an 8% rise over previous year. Cultural changes and accessibility of guns cited as factors.
Rocked by gang violence, civil unrest and a proliferation of lethal weapons, 1992 was the deadliest year in Los Angeles County history, officials said Monday.

Last year's 2,589 homicides, based on a tally by the Los Angeles County coroner's office, was up about 8% from the year before and represented enough slain people to fill the downtown Ahmanson Theatre to more than capacity.

Authorities, however, were not entirely surprised by the numbers, which had been foreshadowed by a summer so bloody it set records of its own, with 517 murders in July and August alone.

"I don't know what accounts for it," said coroner's spokesman Scott Carrier. "We were optimistic things would subside when the (black) gangs called a truce, but that didn't seem to happen."
Among other things, authorities said, the toll reflects unprecedented mayhem in the city of Los Angeles--where 1,063 people were slain through Dec. 21. That figure was well above the total for 1991.

But criminologists say other, larger, factors are also at work, ranging from cultural changes that have broadened the opportunities for crime overall to the accessibility of guns.

"Yes, we have a lot of homicides," said USC criminologist Marcus Felson. "But that's been true for some time."

Los Angeles County's homicide rate generally has been on the rise for at least the past 20 years, statistics show. In 1970, the county had 10.2 homicides per 100,000 residents. By 1980, which for most of the decade stood as the county's most violent year, the homicide rate was 24.4 killings per 100,000 residents.

For several years, the rate dipped, but it surged up again in 1991. Last year's rate marked yet another record, 28 per 100,000 residents.

The numbers include not only the many people who are beaten, shot or stabbed to death, but those who die as the result of vehicular manslaughter. Gang violence is part of the story, but not as big a part as many suspect: According to LAPD statistics, for instance, only about a third of the city's homicides this year were gang-related. The spring's rioting played a part, contributing 52 deaths, but so, too, did hundreds of far-less-publicized slayings in homes and on streets countywide.

But Felson says there may be overarching trends as well--not the least of them the proliferation of guns.

"Homicide is just a fistfight when you have a gun in your fist," Felson said. "There's no indication that the person who, say, hits someone, is any less angry than the person who shoots someone. We just have much better weapons for people to grab when they're angry than we used to."

Additionally, Felson said, societal changes have opened broader opportunities for crime overall. Burglaries are much easier and more tempting now than they were a generation ago, for instance, because televisions, radios and other gadgets are so much lighter and easier to carry off. Women, too, are more at risk because they are dispersed in the job market, rather than congregated in neighborhoods, he said.

These and other factors, he said, helped boost the national crime rate by some 400% between the 1960s and the 1980s--a trend that was echoed in Los Angeles, and that police are continuing to study.

"It's a little premature for us to analyze the numbers, but even without a full accounting for the number of murders in the city, they're astronomical," said Los Angeles Police Department Cmdr. David Gascon.

"What's significant is that each of those numbers represents a human being," Gascon said. "And numbers like that are clearly staggering."

http://articles.latimes.com/1993-01-05/ ... les-county

:tiphat: :tiphat:[/quote

Those are numbers for L.A. county not L.A. ...That would be interesting though to see the crime rate adding in the woodz chi heights etc.
It's all LA. Just in the city limits tho that year it was around 1500.

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Post by PmoneY » January 15th, 2017, 8:39 am

Another thing that i always say is how L.A got gang wars right outside it's city limits....

Like what city 15 minutes right outside Chicago is grimy as Compton or Inglewood ?

It's probably unfair but all tha surrounding cities are basically L.A as well.Santa Monica & Bel air,all that shit is still L.A.

Than we got Long Beach right there popping off as well.

It's why i always say L.A & N.Y should only be compared kuz of how big they both are in size and surrounding boroughs/cities.

Chicago vs Detroit is how i always saw it.

I always looked at New York vs Chicago as well kuz they both started as Organized crime cities.

Al Capone from Brooklyn too and than all tha Skyscrapers & subways in both cities makes em more comparable

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Post by ReclezzRenegade » January 15th, 2017, 8:43 am

Chicago.

Fort is prime example :lmao:
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